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Star Trek - May 8, 2009

waacman

waacman

Restoration of everything
I've always wondered why they couldn't just start fresh for a new generation, write a new storyline, or possibly redo the original. Yes I know that seems horrifying to some older Trekkies, but I think thats what it might take to get a whole new spoiled generation to reconsider this aging epic storyline
 
rojse

rojse

RF Addict
waacman said:
I've always wondered why they couldn't just start fresh for a new generation, write a new storyline, or possibly redo the original. Yes I know that seems horrifying to some older Trekkies, but I think thats what it might take to get a whole new spoiled generation to reconsider this aging epic storyline
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But if they done that, would it really be Trek, or just some movie that has the rights to steal the name of Trek.
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Parts I Liked:

*Casting was great.
*Movie had a genuine sense of fun.
*Amazing prologue (reminded me of Raiders of the Lost Ark intensity).
*New Enterprise looked great (especially when it warped in, guns blazing in the final act).



What I Didn't Like:

*Delta Vega (too coincidental and while I don't expect much from science fiction, how can Spock watch Vulcan get destroyed without any physical repercussions on Delta Vega and why didn't Scotty say anything about it?).
*Bana was great, but didn't have much to work with.
*Wanted to see even more Enterprise.

Despite the things I didn't like so much, I still loved this movie (have seen it twice so far).
 
Wandered Off

Wandered Off

Sporadic Driveby Member
I thought it was very enjoyable, and I'm not that into movies.

I grew up watching the original series - I could tell you what episode it was from the opening seconds. I was too young to care about the cheesiness...

If you liked the series at all, this movie is worth your time.
 
painted wolf

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
All the Trekies I've talked to so far have had one thing to say... "best since 'Wrath of Khan' !"

I have to agree.... I was very pleasantly surprised by how much I liked this movie. There were very few things I didn't enjoy about it.

wa:do
 
cardero

cardero

Citizen Mod
Originally Posted by cardero
Star Trek
Theater/ Color/ 126 Mins./ PG-13/ 2009
Capt. Kirk (Chris Pine) and his trusted team on the starship USS Enterprise boldly go where no man has gone before in this installment of Gene Roddenberry's sci-fi franchise that follows the early days of the intergalactic adventurers. The crew includes Spock (Zachary Quinto), Chekov (Anton Yelchin), Uhura (Zoe Saldana), Scotty (Simon Pegg) and Sulu (John Cho). Eric Bana co-stars, and Leonard Nimoy appears as an older version of Spock.
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Watcmen writes: What'd you think of it?
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I didn’t care for the opening sequence, it took everything I had not to bust out laughing. The origin stories were a bit contrived and pretentious. In the same vein of A PUP NAMED SCOOBY DOO and TINY TOONS, I felt as if I was watching J.J. ABRAMS’ ENTERPRISE BABIES. The gratuitous fan boy/girl movements could have been more subtle and I think they were trying to hard to bridge the gap.

The special effects were well done but the story could have used improvement. It seemed as if the alternate universe for this particular franchise has been overdone and it seemed like a plot point just to employ Leonard Nimoy (he really got old) to reprise his Spock role. One of the charms of the original Star Trek show was that the show was produced on the cheap with heavy attention to story. I haven’t figured out if this movie could or should have gone the same way.


[spoiler="I don’t think the new Spock should have met his older counter-part. I think that moment should have just been shared with the young James T. Kirk.[/spoiler]

I thought some of the performances were a little broad and over the top (almost as if they may have been making fun or light of the original cast) but the actors seemed to be smartly cast and looked the part and I’m sure most were capable of their acting abilities.

I think the humor fell flat for me because I wasn’t used to the characters behaving like that. I kept waiting for someone to bring out custard cream pies and start a pie fight. This is a personal point and I understand that the cast was younger and that the director wanted to portray them differently.

Was I glad I saw it? Okay.
Was it better than the past 6 Star Trek movies? Yes but not by light years.
Would I agree with the 95% Rotten Tomato meter? No. My score hovers around 71-73%.
Would I watch it again? No
Would I like to see a sequel or any further continuing adventures with these characters? Not necessarily.

I went with mrscardero and though it seemed she enjoyed the characterization, I do not think it was enough for her to watch the original television series. For those Star Trek fans who think the final frontier of space begins with the Next Generation, Deep Space Nine or Voyager, I would be pleased if this movie would entice a whole generation who have never ventured into the older Star Trek series to give it a chance.
 
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Nanda

Nanda

Polyanna
I didn't care for it. Pretty much for all of the reasons I thought I might not - though I really did try to go into it with an open mind, especially since so many people I trust the opinions of really seemed to like it - but ultimately, that's not my Kirk, and that's not my Spock. Not saying it was a bad movie, but it didn't really impress me as far as action/scifi films go in general, and I simply wasn't buying it as an actual Star Trek movie. I don't see why this needed to be done in the first place, honestly. I hate this whole remake trend (because that's what it was, a remake. I don't want to hear about "alternate universes," it's a complete cop out.)
 
painted wolf

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Ah but it's such a Star Trek cop out... ;)

Seriously the alternate universe thing is so common that ever character has an "evil beard" kicking around somewhere. It's just another Trek cliche. (like the green women)

wa:do

ps. thanks for the update... digging the comic. :jiggy:
 
Trey of Diamonds

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
I finally saw the movie. Very good, I enjoyed it. Star Trek has always had issues with the timeline and seemed to try and hold on to two different theories. One is that you can travel back and forth along the timeline and make changes that will alter the events that happen along the line. The other is the multiverse theory where multiple versions of the universe are happening all at the same time. Time travel in a multiverse scenario tends to be traveling to a different universe and changes affect that universe and not the timeline the travelers were on. The most famous examples of the multiverse theory happened in the Mirror, Mirror episode of the first series. But there were several other examples. Mirror Universe

The time is a single line theory could be seen in seveal examples as well, notably the Temporal Cold War from Enterprise. Temporal Cold War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the new movie we never learn if we are seeing a Mirrior Universe or if the actual timeline of the standard Star Trek universe has been altered. I suspect we are seeing a Mirror Universe, otherwise all the Star Trek episodes, movies and books will not happen, at least not as they happened originally.
 
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Halcyon

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
I thought the movie was great, especially the guy who played McCoy, I liked how he made the role his own but also imitated some of Kelley's mannerisms, quite amusing.
I thought Spock seemed too emotional, even when he wasn't supposed to be being emotional he seemed tense, kinda like T'Pol from Enterprise.
 
Watchmen

Watchmen

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Premium Member
Halcyon said:
I thought Spock seemed too emotional, even when he wasn't supposed to be being emotional he seemed tense, kinda like T'Pol from Enterprise.
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I think that's the take on the new Spock, really looking into his human side and examining his ability (or inability) to control emotion (esp. in regards to his mother).
 
cardero

cardero

Citizen Mod
Watchmen said:
Although I didn't think it was a very good one - certainly not as pronounced as Nimoy's.
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They might have given the impression that this may have been his first brow lift and that it got higher as years went by.

Watchmen writes: I wonder - is it a genetic ability or can one learn this skill?
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Like spreading the fingers apart in pairs. Mrscardero can do it but I can't.
 
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