Star Wars, Episode VII - Caution! Spoilers

[beenherebeforeagain]

"Terrible science"? I must have missed something in the movie. How could a solar powered energy beam drain a star of its own power and energy? I would think that perhaps it couldn't be fired off every day and would take some time to re-energize the weapon itself. Think about it, so long as that star exists the death star would have a limitless source of power. The dark side of clean solar energy.

But that's the point of the objection: it took all the power of that star (don't ask how it had fired the earlier shot), basically sucked up that star, held it like it was a giant capacitor, and was then going to shoot out this hyperlight beam to vaporize planets far, far away. Only the good guys managed to destroy a key and basically undefended part of the planet-sized machine just in the nick of time, causing the whole planet to explode instead. It wasn't catching energy from the star, it was sucking up the star, or at least all the energy inside it, actively instead of passive solar panels. Even for space fantasy, it was a bit far-fetched.

 

[ThirtyThree]

If you want to delve into the psyche of Darth Vader I think it becomes a lot more complicated than that. Vader used the powers of the Force, specifically the dark side for most importantly his own ends, but he was not a slave to it. He did as I would have done to save the life of my own child. Remember, Vader was also human.

He was transhuman, technically. When he was Anakin, he only turned to the Dark Side because he believed he could use it to save his wife. However, once he turned, it changed him. True, he changed back but that does not discount his original "fall".

You recall where he killed younglings, right? Through the franchise, one can not turn to the dark side without doing what most in the non Star Wars Universe consider actions of evil. Kylo killed his father Han, which logically would have helped to strengthen his bond with the Dark Side?

 

[Adramelek]

He was transhuman, technically. When he was Anakin, he only turned to the Dark Side because he believed he could use it to save his wife. However, once he turned, it changed him. True, he changed back but that does not discount his original "fall".

You recall where he killed younglings, right? Through the franchise, one can not turn to the dark side without doing what most in the non Star Wars Universe consider actions of evil. Kylo killed his father Han, which logically would have helped to strengthen his bond with the Dark Side?

Well, I see your point here ThirtyThree, lol, but I am not going to get into the "nerdy" depths of the Star Wars neo-mythos. However, I suppose the dark side does require some sort of evil-doing sacrifice in order for one to strengthen their bond with it. Such as Darth Vader's killing of younglings, and his quest to hunt down and liquidate all the remaining Jedi Knights, which would make for a good sub-episode of Star Wars.

 

[ThirtyThree]

Well, I see your point here ThirtyThree, lol, but I am not going to get into the "nerdy" depths of the Star Wars neo-mythos. However, I suppose the dark side does require some sort of evil-doing sacrifice in order for one to strengthen their bond with it. Such as Darth Vader's killing of younglings, and his quest to hunt down and liquidate all the remaining Jedi Knights,

It does seem to require such things. In fact, I could make an entire LHP thread regarding the nature of "dark essence"and how it requires this type of action, not for the essence itself but for the conformation of the heart to the essence, the synergy between the two. This is where hetrodoxy and antinomianism seem to be useful.

However, then I would have to delve into personal evil and why the concept of hetrodoxy in respect to conforming to "dark essence" is only valid for some, not all. If you do not personally find adultery evil and you are married, committing adultery is worthless for this pursuit. Also, this essence is not measured by how non moral out against common morality one is.

Regardless, I go on. My point is, Star Wars had something sort of correct regarding actions being required for some, not all. Pardon my nerding out and making this a philosophy debate.