Stars rotating around planets

[shunyadragon]

Just to clarify, what exactly do you mean by orbiting the center of the galaxy? Do you mean that in the same sense that earth orbits the center of the galaxy?

No, The earth orbits our sun. The sun is a star that orbits the galaxy center, a Black Hole. The rogue planet does not have a star. It orbits the galaxy center like stars do. The rogue planet has lost it's star.

Do you agree that a planet ejected from an orbit around Alpha Centauri A and heading in our direction would be called a rogue?

There is no evidence for this. Alpha Centauri A is the closest star system to our Sun 4.37 light years away. A planet headed our way would be attracted to gravitational pull of our sun, and not a rogue planet. It likely would have an elliptical orbit associated with our sun or the Alpha Centauri A. This is very very unlikely.

There was a large cigar shaped asteroid called Oumuamua that passed through our solar system recently that had a trajectory associated with another unknown star?, but not Alpha Centauri A. The gravity of our sun turned the asteroid into a different trajectory.

All stars, planets, meteors, galactic clouds, or other heavenly bodies in the our galaxy or any other galaxy are under the influence of gravity, ultimately the galactic black hole center, Planets and meteors, are orbiting stars, except for rogue planets, which have lost their star and orbit the galactic center.

Gravity rules!

 

[Thief]

There is no evidence for this. Rogue planets orbit the center of the galaxy, as referenced, which contains a super massive Black Hole..

so do clumps of ice
and pebbles
and dust
and a variety of objects in a long list

the size of the item is what matters

and if it is large enough to compress itself into a sphere.....
that is a rogue planet....and does not orbit a star

 

[shunyadragon]

so do clumps of ice
and pebbles
and dust
and a variety of objects in a long list

the size of the item is what matters

and if it is large enough to compress itself into a sphere.....
that is a rogue planet....and does not orbit a star

By definition provided, you know science, the rogue planet orbits the galactic center, because it lacks a sun. ALL cosmological object in our galaxy, as with all galaxies, are under the influence of gravity of the Black Hole of our galaxy.

 

[Thief]

rogue planet
[rogue planet]
NOUN​

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1. 
   
   
   • a celestial object that is the size of a planet but does not orbit a star.
     "there may be billions of rogue planets, not bound to any star"

type …..rouge planet into your search bar for def

this ^ is the first item up

 

[Thief]

By definition provided, you know science, the rogue planet orbits the galactic center, because it lacks a sun. ALL cosmological object in our galaxy, as with all galaxies, are under the influence of gravity of the Black Hole of our galaxy.

as per previous post....
a rogue could wander beyond our galaxy

 

[shunyadragon]

rogue planet
[rogue planet]
NOUN​

​

1. 
   
   
   • a celestial object that is the size of a planet but does not orbit a star.
     "there may be billions of rogue planets, not bound to any star"

type …..rouge planet into your search bar for def

this ^ is the first item up

Incomplete. I gave the complete reference. You are making an unethical selective reference without citing the whole definition of a rogue star.

PLEASE provide the whole reference as I did.

Still waiting . . .

 

[Thief]

Incomplete. I gave the complete reference. You are making an unethical selective reference without citing the whole definition of a rogue star.

PLEASE provide the whole reference as I did.

no need.....

if a planet strays from the galaxy.....it really......really.....has gone rogue

planets orbit stars

if not....they are rogue

 

[shunyadragon]

as per previous post....
a rogue could wander beyond our galaxy

There is no scientific reference that cites this imaginary claim.

Again . . .

Incomplete. I gave the complete reference. You are making an unethical selective reference without citing the whole definition of a rogue star.

PLEASE provide the whole reference as I did.

 

[shunyadragon]

no need.....

if a planet strays from the galaxy.....it really......really.....has gone rogue

planets orbit stars

if not....they are rogue

There is no evidence nor scientific reference that confirms this imaginary claim.

Still waiting . . .

 

[Thief]

wait for the next rogue planet to go by

observe and calculate it's alleged orbit around the alleged black hole

get back with me when you get that done

 

[Polymath257]

Just to clarify, what exactly do you mean by orbiting the center of the galaxy? Do you mean that in the same sense that earth orbits the center of the galaxy?

No. The Earth orbits the sun and the sun orbits the center of the galaxy.

Do you agree that a planet ejected from an orbit around Alpha Centauri A and heading in our direction would be called a rouge?

Yes. But that planet would still orbit the center of the galaxy unless it is actually ejected from the whole galaxy as opposed to just that one star system.

 

[shunyadragon]

wait for the next rogue planet to go by

observe and calculate it's alleged orbit around the alleged black hole

get back with me when you get that done

Science is already tracking rogue planets and their galactic orbit path. Most of the rogue planets we have observed are jupiter like planets.

 

[Cooky]

No. The Earth orbits the sun and the sun orbits the center of the galaxy.

If memory serves, I believe we've only circled the black hole 12 times since our planerary solar existance.

 

[shunyadragon]

If memory serves, I believe we've only circled the black hole 12 times since our planerary solar existance.

Roughly true, everything in the galaxy orbits the Black Hole at the center of the galaxy in one way or another, but we primarily orbit our star. It is best to say our star orbits the center of the galaxy.

 

[Cooky]

Roughly true, everything in the galaxy orbits the Black Hole at the center of the galaxy in one way or another, but we primarily orbit our star. It is best to say our star orbits the center of the galaxy.

I wonder if black holes orbit something.

...It seems like nothing is truly 'on it's own'.

 

[Cooky]

Fun fact:
in 22 galactic years, The Milky Way and Andromeda Galaxy will begin to collide

 

[shunyadragon]

I wonder if black holes orbit something.

...It seems like nothing is truly 'on it's own'.

Small galaxies do orbit larger galaxies, and galaxies do collide and sometimes merge. Our galaxy is not orbiting any other galaxy. Galaxies do collide, and our galaxy will collide with the Andromeda galaxy in a few billion years. 22 galactic years?

Gravity rules!

 

[ecco]

The rogue planet has lost it's star.
... A planet headed our way would be attracted to gravitational pull of our sun, and not a rogue planet. It likely would have an elliptical orbit associated with our sun or the Alpha Centauri A. This is very very unlikely.

What is very unlikely? I think you would agree that all planets are born around stars.

I think you would agree that sometimes a planet can be knocked out of its orbit.

Eons after getting knocked out of its orbit it could be drifting around our galaxy attracted primarily by the gravity of the center of the universe.
-or-
Eons after getting knocked out of its orbit it could be drifting around our galaxy attracted ever so slightly by the gravity of a star that it has come "near".



At this point, in both instances, wouldn't you classify the planet as a "rogue"? If not, why not?

 

[ecco]

Rogue planets orbit the center of the galaxy

a celestial object that is the size of a planet but does not orbit a star.
"there may be billions of rogue planets, not bound to any star"

There is a big difference between these two "definitions".


FWIW, I agree with Thief's definition.

 

[shunyadragon]

There is a big difference between these two "definitions".

There is no difference in the complete definition.

FWIW, I agree with Thief's definition.

Thief's definition is incomplete. There is no known rogue planet that is not in orbit around our galactic center. Please note bold, underlined, and italics.


From: Rogue planet - Wikipedia
A rogue planet (also termed an interstellar planet, nomad planet, free-floating planet, unbound planet, orphan planet, wandering planet, starless planet, or sunless planet) is a planetary-mass object that orbits a galactic center directly. Such objects have been ejected from the planetary system in which they formed or have never been gravitationally bound to any staror brown dwarf.[1][2][3] The Milky Way alone may have billions of rogue planets.

If you have any reference to a rogue planet that does not orbit our galactic'black hole' center please provide it.

The terms wandering planet, unbound planet and free-floating planet are more layman descriptions and not the scientific view. When these rogue planets were first discovered they appeared to be free-floating and wandering, but since astronomers have tracked these planets and found that rogue planets like stars orbit the galactic center.