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Audie

Veteran Member
Yeah. Last I heard new drilling doesn't make sense economically. But what makes sense often times isn't how the show is ran.

Yeah, I dont know. I had a boyfriend who knew
the business pretty well, as a wellsite geologist.

But that stuff is not for me. Nor is the 60K a year pay!
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I'd expect a geologist in oil to make more than that.
Ya know.....people here are going to hate you for
thinking that's peanuts for pay.

Sorry-ah but how much it is depends on where you live.
Maybe next they hate me that they live in
bigger homes for so much less then it costs me.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
That kind of suggests the Uaversey be little (if any)
worse than the UK, which place I guess you can stand.

Maybe a trip to Canada... kind of get the feel of it.
Canada and USA dont feel much different.
Venture across the border, then go right back.

Of possible interest might be that I used to just
loathe anything British, to where the sound of
a British accent would rouse instant hostility.

I have only been there once, unfortunately, and
that was spent mostly in (at?) "Vale of Health"
in Hampstead. All quite posh. Good scones. :D
Nice people. Would have like to have spent
longer and seen more.

I guess now I'd go for another 200 yr lease
of HK to Britain.

Used to hate Japanese even more. Of course.
my family suffered horribly at their hands, WW2.

I have a deeply valued friend, nicest person
ever, who is from Tokyo. I spent 6 weeks in
Japan and think quite differently than I once
did.

I just realized this sounds like me sort of preaching
at you, not what I had in mind, i just started writing.

But yeah, try visiting the US!

Maybe even China, which may not suit all of your
preferences either, but, why not?


Wow I know the Vale of Health and Hamsted very well from my days as a student and early 20's. It was an exclusive area then, but now extortionately expensive, with tiny flats changing hands at over 1 million pounds.
I also spent 9 months in Hong kong during my Artillerry days at the end days of the Korean war. I alcso spent nearly 3 years lining in Spain during the rule of Generalisimo Franko.
Spain at that time was not at all like many people suppose, though it was very hard on ex communists.

I have been visited by my friend Katspur and her Husband from this forum so I am in no way averse to Americans.

but it is not a place that I wish to visit.

Neither do I wish to visit China, but I respect their ability to see the long view and plan for it, how ever I do not care for their methods of controlling their people, but the scale of their task probably requires autocratic rules.

As an aside, my late wife was called Audrey.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Wow I know the Vale of Health and Hamsted very well from my days as a student and early 20's. It was an exclusive area then, but now extortionately expensive, with tiny flats changing hands at over 1 million pounds.
I also spent 9 months in Hong kong during my Artillerry days at the end days of the Korean war. I alcso spent nearly 3 years lining in Spain during the rule of Generalisimo Franko.
Spain at that time was not at all like many people suppose, though it was very hard on ex communists.

I have been visited by my friend Katspur and her Husband from this forum so I am in no way averse to Americans.

but it is not a place that I wish to visit.

Neither do I wish to visit China, but I respect their ability to see the long view and plan for it, how ever I do not care for their methods of controlling their people, but the scale of their task probably requires autocratic rules.

As an aside, my late wife was called Audrey.

More later but I must know where in HK!!
And I would love to hear any stories of it.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The size of the country is irrelevant, this is barbaric, medieval and should be condemned by all countries. Impose sanctions, call in their ambassadors, chuck them out ot the UN, etc etc.
But watch the 'west' do nothing.
Maybe an argument can be made to test out the new drones.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
More later but I must know where in HK!!
And I would love to hear any stories of it.

When I arrived in Hong Kong in the spring of 1953 I was posted to the 45 field regiment Artillery, which had been virtually wiped out when the Glousters fell back during the battle of the Imjin River. A turning point in the Chinese spring offensive in the Korean war. The regiment had been posted to Hong Kong to rebuild its numbers before returning to the UK.
It was stationed on the front line Air field at Shek Kong in the new territories , which at that time was home to a squadron of Vampire Jets.... we also took our turn on the front line defences between the New Territories and the Chinese mainland. At that time Shek Kock was in the middle of nowhere, with a couple of fully walled ancient chines villages a couple of miles away, but otherwise surrounded by paddy fields and monsoon ditches.
Entertainment mostly consisted of the camp cinema, the swimming pool and going to the nearest village to have a drink and visit the taxi dance hall. many of the girls there, were escapees from mainland China. but basically it was just time wasting.

The second half of my stay in Hong Kong was spent stationed in the Victoria Barracks on Kong Kong island. Interestingly many of the Barack buildings have been listed preserved and re-purposed by the new authorities, with some of the land has now become the Victoria park.

I thoroughly enjoyed my stay while at Victoria. as I had even less to do. so I spent most of my time making new friends and visiting interesting parts of Hong Kong such as the Tiger Balm Gardens... I even visited a penfriend I had been writing to, as a school boy. she lived in one of the vast tower block that were springing up everywhere.

I also met a fair number of people through the Cathedral and Baptist missionary friends that I had met. early on during my say.
This introduced me to a number of British expats, who mostly worked for Hongs like Jardines. Compared to most locals they were extremely highly paid with very responsible jobs in shipping or trading. Though one, who became a good friend was the Matron/ part owner of an exclusive private hospital at the very top of the peak , her luxury flat at the back of the hospital had a view across open fields , with grazing cows, over looking the sea and the islands away from Hong Kong.
Many of my other friends worked for companies controlled by Jardines. and who like many of their direct employees, were Scottish descent and often Oxford graduates, destined for higher things. Though they were on very restrictive contracts that forbade marriage, and even home visits during each period of their contract.

Hong Kong is the best shopping experience in the world. Every one understands the principles of trade. They also understand that if you are in their shop you must have a need for something, and it is their job to supply that need. Though they are in no hurry. They do not mind if you return several time to complete the purchase at a price that satisfies both of you.
They also realise that any profit is better than no profit. so are prepared to haggle till a balance is found.

One thing that I do remember was the ferocity of the Hong Kong Police force, which was British led and trained. On one occasion an open sided police truck with all the seats facing sideways to the street, and loaded with at least a dozen armed polices. screeched to a sop in the middle of the road, and all jumped off and machine gunned a Chinese man who was walking down the street... I never did find out what that was about.
When talking about arms ... every jewellery and high value shop had an armed guard out side, often with a side arm, but always with a shot gun at the ready.

I also met a number of people from Macau who seemed very different, many were of mixed Portuguese- Chinese origin, at least to some degree. They seems far more easy going and with almost no racial standoffishness. but as many came over to go to the Hong Kong Races they all seemed fanatical gamblers and were extremely generous

The Hong Kong Chines them selves did not easily make friends with Foreigners. though I became close enough to a few to be invited to a meal in their homes. Though I never got remotely near members the fabulously wealthy Chinese family dynasties. In fact I would probably not have known if I had even met one, as they were extremely private.
Though I did find that sometimes I had ventured into one of their haunts such as tea houses, when the atmosphere became extremely strained, though as always, equally polite. As Europeans we had no way of reading the subtle signals that a Chinese person would have recognised at once, putting such a place off limits. In the same way that a British person at that time, would know when he was unwelcome somewhere in the UK.

All in All, Kong Kong is a marvellous place and I doubt even the best efforts of Peking will ever change its true nature.

All this is through the eyes of a teenager on his first foreign adventure during the early 1950's
so might seem totally out of sync with today's Kong Kong.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
When I arrived in Hong Kong in the spring of 1953 I was posted to the 45 field regiment Artillery, which had been virtually wiped out when the Glousters fell back during the battle of the Imjin River. A turning point in the Chinese spring offensive in the Korean war. The regiment had been posted to Hong Kong to rebuild its numbers before returning to the UK.
It was stationed on the front line Air field at Shek Kong in the new territories , which at that time was home to a squadron of Vampire Jets.... we also took our turn on the front line defences between the New Territories and the Chinese mainland. At that time Shek Kock was in the middle of nowhere, with a couple of fully walled ancient chines villages a couple of miles away, but otherwise surrounded by paddy fields and monsoon ditches.
Entertainment mostly consisted of the camp cinema, the swimming pool and going to the nearest village to have a drink and visit the taxi dance hall. many of the girls there, were escapees from mainland China. but basically it was just time wasting.

The second half of my stay in Hong Kong was spent stationed in the Victoria Barracks on Kong Kong island. Interestingly many of the Barack buildings have been listed preserved and re-purposed by the new authorities, with some of the land has now become the Victoria park.

I thoroughly enjoyed my stay while at Victoria. as I had even less to do. so I spent most of my time making new friends and visiting interesting parts of Hong Kong such as the Tiger Balm Gardens... I even visited a penfriend I had been writing to, as a school boy. she lived in one of the vast tower block that were springing up everywhere.

I also met a fair number of people through the Cathedral and Baptist missionary friends that I had met. early on during my say.
This introduced me to a number of British expats, who mostly worked for Hongs like Jardines. Compared to most locals they were extremely highly paid with very responsible jobs in shipping or trading. Though one, who became a good friend was the Matron/ part owner of an exclusive private hospital at the very top of the peak , her luxury flat at the back of the hospital had a view across open fields , with grazing cows, over looking the sea and the islands away from Hong Kong.
Many of my other friends worked for companies controlled by Jardines. and who like many of their direct employees, were Scottish descent and often Oxford graduates, destined for higher things. Though they were on very restrictive contracts that forbade marriage, and even home visits during each period of their contract.

Hong Kong is the best shopping experience in the world. Every one understands the principles of trade. They also understand that if you are in their shop you must have a need for something, and it is their job to supply that need. Though they are in no hurry. They do not mind if you return several time to complete the purchase at a price that satisfies both of you.
They also realise that any profit is better than no profit. so are prepared to haggle till a balance is found.

One thing that I do remember was the ferocity of the Hong Kong Police force, which was British led and trained. On one occasion an open sided police truck with all the seats facing sideways to the street, and loaded with at least a dozen armed polices. screeched to a sop in the middle of the road, and all jumped off and machine gunned a Chinese man who was walking down the street... I never did find out what that was about.
When talking about arms ... every jewellery and high value shop had an armed guard out side, often with a side arm, but always with a shot gun at the ready.

I also met a number of people from Macau who seemed very different, many were of mixed Portuguese- Chinese origin, at least to some degree. They seems far more easy going and with almost no racial standoffishness. but as many came over to go to the Hong Kong Races they all seemed fanatical gamblers and were extremely generous

The Hong Kong Chines them selves did not easily make friends with Foreigners. though I became close enough to a few to be invited to a meal in their homes. Though I never got remotely near members the fabulously wealthy Chinese family dynasties. In fact I would probably not have known if I had even met one, as they were extremely private.
Though I did find that sometimes I had ventured into one of their haunts such as tea houses, when the atmosphere became extremely strained, though as always, equally polite. As Europeans we had no way of reading the subtle signals that a Chinese person would have recognised at once, putting such a place off limits. In the same way that a British person at that time, would know when he was unwelcome somewhere in the UK.

All in All, Kong Kong is a marvellous place and I doubt even the best efforts of Peking will ever change its true nature.

All this is through the eyes of a teenager on his first foreign adventure during the early 1950's
so might seem totally out of sync with today's Kong Kong.
My parents were there in the 1980's and loved it.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Why wreck our own natural landscape when we have those pesky environmentalists and plenty of countries far away over there out of site with powerless insignificant people we can pillage and plunder instead?

Why are we painting Brunei as powerless and insignificant all of a sudden?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Exactly, it shouldn't matter.
The reason I brought it up is because Corey Booker, a 2020 hopeful in the U.S. presidential race said in a recent meeting that "I'd rather talk to a nice atheist than a mean Christian" and was applauded, no media outrage, no claims of racism or some type of phobia etc. I am no Christian but I couldn't help but wonder what would have been the response had he said "a mean Jew" or a "mean Muslim".

But...that's not a knock on Christians. It's a backhanded compliment to atheists.
The implicit message is that he'd rather talk to a nice Christian.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why are we painting Brunei as powerless and insignificant all of a sudden?
That tends to be how politics goes when someone else has something another someone else wants, and for much of the world to Uncle Sam that's how people and nations are when they have something he wants.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It had nothing to do with a fine hour.

The Russians were setting about to build an
air base.

It was a geopolitical move, and, any other
president would have done the same.

But then your whole post was facetious, so,
never mind.
Damn good thing it was quickly dealt with. I still remember being on the airstrip with a lot of us talking about possible deployment to Grenada.
 
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