Steve Bannon Suggests There Are Too Many Asian CEOs In Silicon Valley

[Revoltingest]

Well... I'm not good at kung-fu but I am good at math and driving.

Asians are also modest about their kung fu.

You haven't met one owning a liquor store? Then you haven't met enough of them.

I don't go into liquor stores.
But I only spoke of the ones I personally know.
They're all Sikhs....except for the computer store owner (a heathen).

What is a civic society?

It sounds like one of those odd constructions I run across when a Chinese
company has a non-English speaker write their ebay product description.
Is Bannon Chinese?

 

[Kemosloby]

Wall envy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States#Bias_against_Asians_and_whites

That's not a campaign to punish minorities for success, and because you apparently haven't heard Affirmative Action is widely and rapidly falling out of favor.

 

[MD]

That's not a campaign to punish minorities for success, and because you apparently haven't heard Affirmative Action is widely and rapidly falling out of favor.

Did you read the study sourced within the wiki article? There are many more examples and studies, not to mention my own anecdotal experiences. Affirmative Action is entrenched within institutions, have you ever applied to any graduate or professional school? It's not going anywhere.

As a minority who comes from one of the more successful ones, I have witnessed and experienced this discrimination simply due to my heritage. Many others have as well.

It's reverse racism at its finest, and it's something that is heavily propagated by the Democrats and the Left.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Did you read the study sourced within the wiki article? There are many more examples and studies, not to mention my own anecdotal experiences. Affirmative Action is entrenched within institutions, have you ever applied to any graduate or professional school? It's not going anywhere.

As a minority who comes from one of the more successful ones, I have witnessed and experienced this discrimination simply due to my heritage. Many others have as well.

It's reverse racism at its finest, and it's something that is heavily propagated by the Democrats and the Left.

Your claim was that the Democrats have campaigned to punish the success of minorities, and you are not supporting this claim.

 

[MD]

Your claim was that the Democrats have campaigned to punish the success of minorities, and you are not supporting this claim.

Both the 2004 and 2008 Democrat party platform explicitly states that they support affirmative action. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=78283
http://www.ontheissues.org/Dem_Platform_2004.htm

The sources I provided (I can provide more), shows that affirmative action in its current form is racist against successful minorities. While the Dems cannot officially state that it punishes success, supporting affirmative action in its current form basically means supporting its current policy.

 

[idav]

Steve Bannon Suggests There Are Too Many Asian CEOs In Silicon Valley

They won, we don't provide education and our high schoolers are catching up to their 3rd graders in math.

 

[Lighthouse]

What I make of it is this... When you have an abundance from other countries coming over for free scholarship education, and staying for jobs... it takes scholarships away from American's and jobs from Americans. It becomes more of an international society first before national society.
A healthy balance of international talent is great, without allowing too many. He thought wrong and was mistaken when he said 2/3's or 3/4's. However, if it were 2/3's or 3/4's.... that would not be a healthy balance of international talent and homegrown talent. It would be much different if they were born here, but if a lopsided amount of ceo's and executives of companies were imported internationally, it would be more of an international society(civic society) as opposed to a national society.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Feel like I should post this.

Giving equally across the board isn't productive when the less advantaged are still not succeeding.
Whatever you feel about affirmative action, not all minorities are disadvantaged at the same rate in the same areas.
Anyway I'd rather have Scandinavian style socialized universities anyway, so affirmative action in schools isn't something I support.
Though I would hella support some sort of discussion on getting rid of media (especially movie) racial whitewashing Asian roles, because they literally have the toughest time getting representation.

Anyway, Bannon wasn't contextually talking about affirmative action, he was just being a dbag.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Both the 2004 and 2008 Democrat party platform explicitly states that they support affirmative action. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=78283
http://www.ontheissues.org/Dem_Platform_2004.htm

The sources I provided (I can provide more), shows that affirmative action in its current form is racist against successful minorities. While the Dems cannot officially state that it punishes success, supporting affirmative action in its current form basically means supporting its current policy.

It has, apparently, had some success in the past, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affir...ates#Arguments_in_favor_of_affirmative_action

I would hope that the Democratic establishment would not use it as a weapon to keep minorities down. It seems more likely that, like any policy, it needs tweaking in order to better serve its purpose.

 

[MD]

Feel like I should post this.

Giving equally across the board isn't productive when the less advantaged are still not succeeding.
Whatever you feel about affirmative action, not all minorities are disadvantaged at the same rate in the same areas.
Anyway I'd rather have Scandinavian style socialized universities anyway, so affirmative action in schools isn't something I support.
Though I would hella support some sort of discussion on getting rid of media (especially movie) racial whitewashing Asian roles, because they literally have the toughest time getting representation.

Anyway, Bannon wasn't contextually talking about affirmative action, he was just being a dbag.

This is a slap to those minorities that are disadvantaged and have the system against them. It is a form of racism which is perpetuated by the Left against those who they deem as not worthy of help. As someone who immigrated to the West as a child, grew up in a ghetto with abject poverty and was told that I belong to a 'privileged minority' while applying to professional school your statement is no different from what Bannon said.

I myself have had friends who were wealthy and from 'special minorities' get far more advantages in life due to their color of their skin. Not all blacks and hispanics are poor and come from a history of discrimination and slavery. I had to work twice as hard and get far higher grades to get the same opportunities as others due to the color of my skin and heritage. If that isn't racism, I'm not sure what is.

 

[MD]

It has, apparently, had some success in the past, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affir...ates#Arguments_in_favor_of_affirmative_action

I would hope that the Democratic establishment would not use it as a weapon to keep minorities down. It seems more likely that, like any policy, it needs tweaking in order to better serve its purpose.

Why not instill a meritocracy instead of suppressing some while choosing others? Why is the Left so afraid of those who work hard?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Why not instill a meritocracy instead of suppressing some while choosing others? Why is the Left so afraid of those who work hard?

I don't think it is so much about being afraid of hard workers. That doesn't make sense. A very real problem of racism exists, however, and it would be all too easy for minorities to be systematically put down without some sort of protection put in place against it.

 

[MD]

I don't think it is so much about being afraid of hard workers. That doesn't make sense. A very real problem of racism exists, however, and it would be all too easy for minorities to be systematically put down without some sort of protection put in place against it.

By persecuting some races while elevating others? Doesn't seem like you're solving the problem but shifting the power

 

[Guitar's Cry]

By persecuting some races while elevating others? Doesn't seem like you're solving the problem but shifting the power

Hence why I said "some sort of protection."

Do you think businesses in America can be trusted to operate fairly without some system like affirmative action. (Note the "like" part.)

 

[MD]

Hence why I said "some sort of protection."

Do you think businesses in America can be trusted to operate fairly without some system like affirmative action. (Note the "like" part.)

Nothing can be fully fair. Nothing. All groups prefer their own. You think by choosing certain minorities and placing them in power, they won't choose their own? Tribalism is far deeper and rooted than you think.

And businesses work more or less on merit, more than anything else. It is the public sector that uses affirmative action to the max. A business would be far more fair to all races than universities, govt jobs or professional schools. To them all that matters is the bottom dollar and productivity with results is king.

 

[dgirl1986]

What on earth is going on over there. Seriously. :/

 

[ADigitalArtist]

This is a slap to those minorities that are disadvantaged and have the system against them. It is a form of racism which is perpetuated by the Left against those who they deem as not worthy of help. As someone who immigrated to the West as a child, grew up in a ghetto with abject poverty and was told that I belong to a 'privileged minority' while applying to professional school your statement is no different from what Bannon said.

I myself have had friends who were wealthy and from 'special minorities' get far more advantages in life due to their color of their skin. Not all blacks and hispanics are poor and come from a history of discrimination and slavery. I had to work twice as hard and get far higher grades to get the same opportunities as others due to the color of my skin and heritage. If that isn't racism, I'm not sure what is.

Lots of people of all races and nationalities have a sob story, including the people you are convinced have more advantage than you, and you're convinced work less hard than you. But the numbers say otherwise. I'm white as the driven snow, and worked really hard to get from my rural farming background into medicine. Doesn't change that there is a greater racial disparity in representation and opportunity in POC, and even more so for black kids than Asian kids in the business workforce (especially here in the Pacific NW)
Again, I don't support school system affirmative action at all because I don't support for profit universities at all. Nobody should have to pay for higher education. But that's another thread.

Also, this:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcn...t-your-wedge-n610596?client=ms-android-att-us

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't think it is so much about being afraid of hard workers. That doesn't make sense. A very real problem of racism exists, however, and it would be all too easy for minorities to be systematically put down without some sort of protection put in place against it.

Generally, I'm not in favor of different rules for different groups, and while Affirmative Action does have its problems, and it doesn't actually address what it's intended to ameliorate, at least someone tried to put a band aid over the problem, and it's hardly "being afraid of hard work" and "campaigning against successful minorities."

 

[Watchmen]

Steve Bannon Suggests There Are Too Many Asian CEOs In Silicon Valley


First Bannon's statement of 2/3 or 3/4 of CEO's in Silicon Valley being Asian is nonsense. Its not even close to being true. But that is not even the point.

What does being Asian have to do with living in a civic society? Can't Asians be part of a civic society? Or is there a limit to how many Asians can be CEO's in a civic society?

(what is a civic society anyway? did he mean to say civil society? I don't think Bannon has any place in a civil society, but civic society seems redundant to me. But that isn't the point either)

And before someone else points it out, Trump's own comments in this interview are much more reasonable. But you see what kind of influence Bannon could be in the whitehouse.

His problem wasn't that they were Asian, but that they were from Asia. Do you understand the distinction? Do you understand why having 2/3 of Silicon Valley's CEOs being from Asia might be a problem?