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study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

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Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

"Our findings suggests that long COVID-19 can affect nearly every organ system," assistant professor Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly said. For the past six months, Al-Aly of Washington University and his team have been monitoring some of the first people in the St. Louis area to get COVID-19.

"We've known for a while now that some people with COVID-19 are still reporting fatigue, and shortness of breath, and cough, and other manifestations well beyond the first 30 days," Al-Aly said. "So we started thinking, are some people with COVID-19 going to have long-term manifestations?"

Their findings showed an increase risk of death and quite a number of other serious illnesses. Those who've had severe symptoms and were hospitalized are the most at-risk of having complications in the future.

Al-Aly says even the least severe case has a greater risk of serious illness than someone who hasn't had COVID-19. "It can affect the brain. It can affect the heart. It can affect the lungs, kidney, liver, we see increased mental health disorder," Al-Aly said.

Making sure your primary physician stays vigilant during your check-ups is one way to combat the risk. Another, is making sure you pay attention to how you feel.

"We should be vigilant and be prepared to deal with long COVID-19 patients," Al-Aly said. "This is not going to be a small percentage of the population, it's going to be at lease three million people in the united states who need long-term care.

Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system
 

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Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

"Our findings suggests that long COVID-19 can affect nearly every organ system," assistant professor Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly said. For the past six months, Al-Aly of Washington University and his team have been monitoring some of the first people in the St. Louis area to get COVID-19.

"We've known for a while now that some people with COVID-19 are still reporting fatigue, and shortness of breath, and cough, and other manifestations well beyond the first 30 days," Al-Aly said. "So we started thinking, are some people with COVID-19 going to have long-term manifestations?"

Their findings showed an increase risk of death and quite a number of other serious illnesses. Those who've had severe symptoms and were hospitalized are the most at-risk of having complications in the future.

Al-Aly says even the least severe case has a greater risk of serious illness than someone who hasn't had COVID-19. "It can affect the brain. It can affect the heart. It can affect the lungs, kidney, liver, we see increased mental health disorder," Al-Aly said.

Making sure your primary physician stays vigilant during your check-ups is one way to combat the risk. Another, is making sure you pay attention to how you feel.

"We should be vigilant and be prepared to deal with long COVID-19 patients," Al-Aly said. "This is not going to be a small percentage of the population, it's going to be at lease three million people in the united states who need long-term care.

Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system
A lot of ailments have long term implications.

What is it that is being debated here?
 

stvdv

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Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system
IMO:
I don't trust scientists for a second, who are popping up new studies like it's nothing, since Corona ... all BS in my opinion. They should know by now that we are also an organism that can adept pretty well to changes in our environment. I don't worry about Corona myself, even while having a low immune system (but I admit that I am fine with dying now; had a good life). Fear is the best way to kill your immune system, and this is exactly what these scientists seem to be doing the past year; they seem to want us to get a worse immunesystem; it's very Adharmic this fear mongering. Of course they are told to do so by those that pay their bills, but still.

Note: Science used to be thorough ... first triple check ... taking years, that time has gone it seems (totally not trustworthy anymore for me). Probably good revenue these early publication (nowadays everyone puts stuff on internet and get a few dollars for the ads ... scientists probably don't want to miss out on that opportunity)

"Our findings suggests that long COVID-19 can affect nearly every organ system," assistant professor Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly said. For the past six months, Al-Aly of Washington University and his team have been monitoring some of the first people in the St. Louis area to get COVID-19.
I can give plenty of studies proving that our body is very capable itself to fight of pathogens. 98% don't die of Corona should give an indication. But if I get it, I probably fall in the 2% category that dies
 
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The Hammer

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Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

"Our findings suggests that long COVID-19 can affect nearly every organ system," assistant professor Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly said. For the past six months, Al-Aly of Washington University and his team have been monitoring some of the first people in the St. Louis area to get COVID-19.

"We've known for a while now that some people with COVID-19 are still reporting fatigue, and shortness of breath, and cough, and other manifestations well beyond the first 30 days," Al-Aly said. "So we started thinking, are some people with COVID-19 going to have long-term manifestations?"

Their findings showed an increase risk of death and quite a number of other serious illnesses. Those who've had severe symptoms and were hospitalized are the most at-risk of having complications in the future.

Al-Aly says even the least severe case has a greater risk of serious illness than someone who hasn't had COVID-19. "It can affect the brain. It can affect the heart. It can affect the lungs, kidney, liver, we see increased mental health disorder," Al-Aly said.

Making sure your primary physician stays vigilant during your check-ups is one way to combat the risk. Another, is making sure you pay attention to how you feel.

"We should be vigilant and be prepared to deal with long COVID-19 patients," Al-Aly said. "This is not going to be a small percentage of the population, it's going to be at lease three million people in the united states who need long-term care.

Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

This makes sense and is what people have been discussing when talking about Long COVID symptoms.

My wife is one of those still suffering. Still chronic fatigued, occasionally her throat closes at the slightest irritation, and she is having multiple heart problems (palpations, and high BP and heart rate), including an increase in her blood clotting proteins. She is also having concentration and speaking problems and needs to see a speech pathologist as well now.

There are no answers on how or why, only that it is occuring and they aren't sure what to do to other than symptom management.
 

stvdv

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This makes sense and is what people have been discussing when talking about Long COVID symptoms.

My wife is one of those still suffering. Still chronic fatigued, occasionally her throat closes at the slightest irritation, and she is having multiple heart problems (palpations, and high BP and heart rate), including an increase in her blood clotting proteins. She is also having concentration and speaking problems and needs to see a speech pathologist as well now.

There are no answers on how or why, only that it is occuring and they aren't sure what to do to other than symptom management.
That sounds really bad. Wish you both all the strength needed. And you did not get Corona, even while living together?

Seeing your name "The hammer" I picture you being young (not old). Did your wife get Corona without having any prior health conditions? If that's the case then I probably knock down dead the moment I catch that virus, having a very bad immune system and already quite a few organs being impaired. My Master did warn me, that I better not get it, so I enjoy living my recluse life the past year. Where I live I don't hear any cases at all, so definitely not that severe. So, thanks for sharing, good reminder to be careful. Though I am fine to die (I had a good life), I rather avoid more serious complications.
 

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Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

"Our findings suggests that long COVID-19 can affect nearly every organ system," assistant professor Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly said. For the past six months, Al-Aly of Washington University and his team have been monitoring some of the first people in the St. Louis area to get COVID-19.

"We've known for a while now that some people with COVID-19 are still reporting fatigue, and shortness of breath, and cough, and other manifestations well beyond the first 30 days," Al-Aly said. "So we started thinking, are some people with COVID-19 going to have long-term manifestations?"

Their findings showed an increase risk of death and quite a number of other serious illnesses. Those who've had severe symptoms and were hospitalized are the most at-risk of having complications in the future.

Al-Aly says even the least severe case has a greater risk of serious illness than someone who hasn't had COVID-19. "It can affect the brain. It can affect the heart. It can affect the lungs, kidney, liver, we see increased mental health disorder," Al-Aly said.

Making sure your primary physician stays vigilant during your check-ups is one way to combat the risk. Another, is making sure you pay attention to how you feel.

"We should be vigilant and be prepared to deal with long COVID-19 patients," Al-Aly said. "This is not going to be a small percentage of the population, it's going to be at lease three million people in the united states who need long-term care.

Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

What about people like me who were infected but not sickened by C.O.V.I.D-19? Could I have still have any long-term health complications unbeknownst to me by having been infected with the SARS-CoV2 virus?
 

Unveiled Artist

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Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

"Our findings suggests that long COVID-19 can affect nearly every organ system," assistant professor Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly said. For the past six months, Al-Aly of Washington University and his team have been monitoring some of the first people in the St. Louis area to get COVID-19.

"We've known for a while now that some people with COVID-19 are still reporting fatigue, and shortness of breath, and cough, and other manifestations well beyond the first 30 days," Al-Aly said. "So we started thinking, are some people with COVID-19 going to have long-term manifestations?"

Their findings showed an increase risk of death and quite a number of other serious illnesses. Those who've had severe symptoms and were hospitalized are the most at-risk of having complications in the future.

Al-Aly says even the least severe case has a greater risk of serious illness than someone who hasn't had COVID-19. "It can affect the brain. It can affect the heart. It can affect the lungs, kidney, liver, we see increased mental health disorder," Al-Aly said.

Making sure your primary physician stays vigilant during your check-ups is one way to combat the risk. Another, is making sure you pay attention to how you feel.

"We should be vigilant and be prepared to deal with long COVID-19 patients," Al-Aly said. "This is not going to be a small percentage of the population, it's going to be at lease three million people in the united states who need long-term care.

Wash U study suggests COVID-19 has long-term effects on nearly every organ system

Since most illnesses gave long term effects (personal experience), what would be unique to this line of thinking?

I'd assume later on we'd discover better ways to monitor and treat symptoms to prevent long term effects but I think it extremely rare we will find a cure.
 

The Hammer

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Premium Member
Since most illnesses gave long term effects (personal experience), what would be unique to this line of thinking?

I'd assume later on we'd discover better ways to monitor and treat symptoms to prevent long term effects but I think it extremely rare we will find a cure.

"Published studies (see here and here) and surveys conducted by patient groups indicate that 50% to 80% of patients continue to have bothersome symptoms three months after the onset of COVID-19 — even after tests no longer detect virus in their body."

The tragedy of long COVID - Harvard Health Blog


I don't know of any other virus that has a 50-80% long term complication prognosis for those infected.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I've watched them downplay COVID since the beginning and completely disregard the implications of Long COVID.

I call it like I see it.

Personally, I judge OPs rather than the people who created them. If I just focused on the people and not their OP, gosh, I'd never be on RF nonetheless talk to people about topics too sensitive for me to discuss without some level of patience of both parties.

But in the OP, I didn't see any arguments presented, so they're not the edit... prey.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
"Published studies (see here and here) and surveys conducted by patient groups indicate that 50% to 80% of patients continue to have bothersome symptoms three months after the onset of COVID-19 — even after tests no longer detect virus in their body."

The tragedy of long COVID - Harvard Health Blog


I don't know of any other virus that has a 50-80% long term complication prognosis for those infected.

I don't know. I'd have to look at the link, but to me that's like saying lung cancer is worse than breast cancer, so let's not compare the two regardless both being just as serious and have long term effects if not deadly.

We don't have to discredit COVID to say there are other illnesses worse off. It's stating a fact not discrediting the object of comparison.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What is it that is being debated here?
That those such as yourself are very wrong to focus on death as though it's all we have to worry about with Covid.
And we've known about this extensive damage for quite awhile now. It's why I have refuted the claims that only include death by emphasizing death isn't the only thing covid can do. Long covid is another possibility, and while I don't personally know anyone who has died, I know a few who have been utterly debilitated by long covid, directly or undirectly (undirectly, such as my aunt who didn't know she had covid until she tried to get out of bed and discovered she just didn't have the energy for, causing her to fall and break her hip).
It's pretty nasty, and why I haven't done much outside the house in the past year. I have enough stuff as it is, and the covid fatigue is way worse than the chronic fatigue I deal with.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I don't trust scientists for a second, who are popping up new studies like it's nothing, since Corona ... all BS in my opinion.
No, it's the process of science unfolding before our very eyes.
It's entirely new to many people.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
That those such as yourself are very wrong to focus on death as though it's all we have to worry about with Covid.
And we've known about this extensive damage for quite awhile now. It's why I have refuted the claims that only include death by emphasizing death isn't the only thing covid can do. Long covid is another possibility, and while I don't personally know anyone who has died, I know a few who have been utterly debilitated by long covid, directly or undirectly (undirectly, such as my aunt who didn't know she had covid until she tried to get out of bed and discovered she just didn't have the energy for, causing her to fall and break her hip).
It's pretty nasty, and why I haven't done much outside the house in the past year. I have enough stuff as it is, and the covid fatigue is way worse than the chronic fatigue I deal with.

Shadow Wolf, though. The thread on "information about COVID" is nothing but deaths. What if one of us posted something more productive than death counts like how to treat oneself if one has it, what new symptoms are there, and other information stuff-would you guys focus on the person giving the material or learn from the material itself?

You guys Do focus more on the deaths. I tried bringing up people who have survived, and one RF said "who cares?"
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Fear is the best way to kill your immune system, and this is exactly what these scientists seem to be doing the past year; they seem to want us to get a worse immunesystem
No. (Again because this really needs addressed on it's own)
The fear that worsens your immune system are things like severe anxiety. Becoming fearful when dad comes home because the drinking, yelling, beatings, and raping is about to begin. It is anxiety caused when someone fears coming to work because his manager is being sexually exploited by a manager taking advantage of her being female and the social consequences surrounding a male complaining about a woman sexually coming on to him.
Staying home, where is the fear in that? There is stress, lots of it to varying degrees, but it's not being fearful. No more than taking shelter in basement while there is a tornado spinning about. No more than wearing a seatbelt when you are in a car.
And want us to have weaker immune systems? You're talking about a global conspiracy with many opposing nations going along with it. Like, China, Russia, America, Germany, Germany, even Iran all acted on the threat posed by Covid. There's no way such countries are going to cooperate over a hoax. They'd be at each other's throats to prove it wrong if there something suspicious going on. Much like how the Russians would have known if the Lunar Landing was of a terrestrial origin. They would have discovered this, and they would have used it to bring down the United Sates.
 

The Hammer

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I don't know. I'd have to look at the link, but to me that's like saying lung cancer is worse than breast cancer, so let's not compare the two regardless both being just as serious and have long term effects if not deadly.

We don't have to discredit COVID to say there are other illnesses worse off. It's stating a fact not discrediting the object of comparison.

Things can also vary in there purported severity, no? Which means things like long term health impacts vary from disease to disease.

A case of the common cold, is less severe then getting say Ebola? Right?

I don't see the cancer comparison, as cancers are all one thing (an expression of irregular cellular growth), it just occurs in many places. .
 
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