Stuff Republicans say.

[Shadow Wolf]

With what we have, Indiana could probably easily outdo Silicone Valley, Hollywood, and New York. It has the education programs, but it does not invest in them. If this state relied on the educated graduates it produces, it could become an economic powerhouse. But the only reason the state budget looks so good is because Mitch Daniels hacked and slashed at the budget, and this cuts included education.

 

[sun rise]

With what we have, Indiana could probably easily outdo Silicone Valley, Hollywood, and New York. It has the education programs, but it does not invest in them. If this state relied on the educated graduates it produces, it could become an economic powerhouse. But the only reason the state budget looks so good is because Mitch Daniels hacked and slashed at the budget, and this cuts included education.

Business people understand investing in the future of the business. Many conservative politicians don't understand investing in the future of the country.

 

[tytlyf]

Many conservative politicians don't understand investing in the future of the country.

Because they're greedy. Top 1%r's typically vote republican but there are some democratic ones (Buffett, Soros, etc.) Difference is the republican ones are all about greed and paying as little as possible to employees.

 

[tytlyf]

No Surprise here. I bet esmith is in favor of it. Whatever happened to "making no law endorsing a religion" thingy?
Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'

"The proposal seeks that Idaho be "formally and specifically declared a Christian state," guided by a Judeo-Christian faith reflected in the U.S. Declaration of Independence where all authority and power is attributed to God, the resolution reads."

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'| Reuters

 

[sun rise]

No Surprise here. I bet esmith is in favor of it. Whatever happened to "making no law endorsing a religion" thingy?
Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'

"The proposal seeks that Idaho be "formally and specifically declared a Christian state," guided by a Judeo-Christian faith reflected in the U.S. Declaration of Independence where all authority and power is attributed to God, the resolution reads."

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'| Reuters

Just like the Muslims are doing with their "Islamic State". Of course there's a vast difference in brutality, but not as far as theocracy goes. It's the same mind set.

That kind of anti-American thinking is doomed to failure sooner or later.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No Surprise here. I bet esmith is in favor of it. Whatever happened to "making no law endorsing a religion" thingy?
Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'

"The proposal seeks that Idaho be "formally and specifically declared a Christian state," guided by a Judeo-Christian faith reflected in the U.S. Declaration of Independence where all authority and power is attributed to God, the resolution reads."

Republicans propose declaring Idaho a 'Christian state'| Reuters

Not all of them are.
Bjorn Handeen, a committee member who described himself as a Republican with libertarian leanings, said he is opposed to any document that puts the government in charge of defining Christianity.
But this:
Supporters say the measure echoes the Christian principles espoused by early U.S. presidents such as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, and that it has added significance at a time when Christians are subject to persecution in countries such as Syria where it is not the dominant religion.
I don't know if I should laugh, roll my eyes, groan, or be seriously concerned, or a combination of all of them.

 

[tytlyf]

Not all of them are.
Bjorn Handeen, a committee member who described himself as a Republican with libertarian leanings, said he is opposed to any document that puts the government in charge of defining Christianity.
But this:
Supporters say the measure echoes the Christian principles espoused by early U.S. presidents such as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, and that it has added significance at a time when Christians are subject to persecution in countries such as Syria where it is not the dominant religion.
I don't know if I should laugh, roll my eyes, groan, or be seriously concerned, or a combination of all of them.

Someone teaches these conservatives the falsehood that the founding fathers were christians and this country was founded on christian principles. I blame RW media and the profiteers who make money off these people. It's part of that "Freedom, Liberty, Patriot, Christian, Founding Fathers, Conservative, etc" buzz pool of words that someone like Frank Luntz have found to be extremely successful at duping vulnerable people.

 

[sun rise]

Not all of them are.
Bjorn Handeen, a committee member who described himself as a Republican with libertarian leanings, said he is opposed to any document that puts the government in charge of defining Christianity.
...

That the tragedy of the modern Republican party. In some areas I would call myself a conservative but I refuse to associate with what the current Republican party panders to and supports.

 

[tytlyf]

Here's a solution for the southern border problem, plant IUD's in the ground and 'blow them up.' Scary people...

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Anybody can also feed large amounts of CO2 to plants and observe the remarkable positive effect, an unambiguous fact which is notable a sore point in climastrology

But you can't have a steady rise in Co2 along with deforrestation and an increase human polulation encraching on areas that were once inhabited by trees, plants and grasses an assume that the remaining vegetation loves the increase Co2.

CO2 concentration ppm and effect on plants for the greenhouses gardening or indoor garden

Too much CO2 is bad to the plants. Too high CO2 level lowers plants' transpiration during photosynthesis: without or with less transpiration less nutritive solution is drawn thru the plant, thus less food enters the plant and growth slows down. Under too high CO2 level, necrosis spots (dead vegetal tissue, Figure 2) appear on leaves that may also roll into themselves. These dead tissue spots are a great food for bacteria and molds. Too much of a good thing, again, turns out bad results like a lower weighted yield per plant and a lower quality produce.

For global warming, big foot, ancient aliens
no such repeatable experiment, direct observation, accurate measurement, only computer simulations, suggestions, opinions, theories.

I would simply disagree with you unless you had evidence that shows the current data by the majjority of science in the respective field is false.

Climate models accurately predicted global warming when reflecting natural ocean cycles | Dana Nuccitelli | Environment | The Guardian

Predicting global surface temperature changes in the short-term is a challenge for climate models. Temperature changes over periods of a decade or two can be dominated by influences from ocean cycles like El Niño and La Niña. During El Niño phases, the oceans absorb less heat, leaving more to warm the atmosphere, and the opposite is true during a La Niña.

How reliable are climate models? (Too much data to paste but very informative)

 

[Dirty Penguin]

More from the republican clown car...

Nevada Republican says cancer is a fungus you can flush out with salt water

“If you have cancer, which I believe is a fungus, and we can put a pic line into your body and we’re flushing with, say, salt water, sodium cardonate through that line and flushing out the fungus,” Fiore said on her radio show over the weekend. “These are some procedures that are not FDA-approved in America that are very inexpensive, cost-effective.”

Wow....just..wow..!!!!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

More from the republican clown car...

Nevada Republican says cancer is a fungus you can flush out with salt water


Wow....just..wow..!!!!

If I drink, and some other stuff, and I don't get that stupid, then WTF is she on?

 

[esmith]

If I drink, and some other stuff, and I don't get that stupid, then WTF is she on?

Yes there are those on both sides of the political spectrum that seem to have the same disease.....foot-in-mouth-disease
a sample from: 50 Dumb Liberal Quotes | The Stir
. Sheryl Crow on Environmentalism: "I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares [sic] of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required.'"

Joe Biden on culturalism: "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

Whoopi Goldberg on 43-year-old Roman Polanski raping and sodomizing a 13-year-old girl: "I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and [sic] when they let him out he was like "You know what this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail I'm not staying, so that's why he left."

Joy Behar on Economics: "Isn't it a little racist to call it Black Friday?"

John Conyers on the Health Care Bill, which he voted for: "I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill ... What good is reading the bill if it's a thousand pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?'

John Kerry on the troops: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Congressman Hank Johnson on Guam: "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize,"

I could keep going, but I think you get the picture.

 

[sun rise]

esmith, this is a thread for stupid/evil stuff Republicans do. That last post was in my judgement an attempt to hijack the thread.

 

[sun rise]

Meanwhile back at the Republican clown circus, there's this one. Now the lawyers are of course claiming that certain facts were not available, but to me it's clear that this guy was guilty as sin and faux news and some Republicans don't care what the facts are nor how badly their actions affect morale of our brave soldiers, they'll just keep on doing this kind of dung.

Cause Célèbre, Scorned by Troops

But the case is far from over. Mr. Lorance, who was dismissed from the Army, has become a cause célèbre for conservative commentators, including Sean Hannity of Fox News, who say the Obama administration punished a soldier for trying to defend his troops. Three Republican House members — Duncan Hunter of California, Matt Salmon of Arizona and Ryan Zinke of Montana — have asked the secretary of the Army to review the case. And more than 124,000 people have signed a petition to the White House demanding a pardon.
...
Though many members of the platoon have never publicly expressed their views of the case, nine came forward to testify against Mr. Lorance at his trial, and in interviews several have contradicted Mr. Lorance’s account of a split-second decision to protect his troops. The picture those soldiers paint is of a young lieutenant who, during just three days in command, ordered soldiers to fire repeatedly on unarmed Afghans, tried to falsify reports in order to cover up his actions and so alienated and outraged his troops that they refused to follow orders and turned him in.
...
But soldiers in Afghanistan said Lieutenant Lorance had arrived at their outpost seemingly set on harsh tactics to subdue local insurgents.

“He looks like the all-American sweetheart when you meet him,” Sergeant Williams said in an interview. “But he was just so aggressive. One of the first things he said to us was, we are going to go in Gestapo-style with night raids, pull people out of houses, make them afraid of us.”

The afternoon he arrived, Lieutenant Lorance ordered one of the team’s sharpshooters to fire into the village from the outpost, with the shots hitting inches from civilians, according to trial records. In one case, he ordered the sharpshooter to toy with a man by firing near his head and both shoulders to box him in.

Lieutenant Lorance then ordered the sharpshooter to aim near children and women in a grape field next to the outpost. The sharpshooter, Specialist Matthew Rush, refused.
...
“War is hard, there is collateral damage. I get that — I’ve got my own stories,” Staff Sgt. Daniel Williams said in an interview. But Sergeant Williams, who was on his third tour in Afghanistan and was a squad leader in the platoon, added, “That’s not what this was; this was straight murder.”

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I could keep going, but I think you get the picture.

I know I've said many times, I am not a liberal. I said it on this thread, I enjoy picking on Republicans. Republicans are pretty much the anti-GLBT party, it was a Republican who began the "Red Scare," and it is modern Republican party who give not a **** about the environment, workers, science, or other things I hold dear. And I know we have had this discussion, you and I, that I do not like Democrats either.

Congressman Hank Johnson on Guam: "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize,"

You may want to check you sources, as it does not seem he meant it would literally capsize:
According to the Hill, a spokesman for Johnson responded to the incident by saying the congressman is concerned the influx of military personnel will overwhelm the island's infrastructure and ecosystem.
If Johnson's remarks were meant figuratively, he had a legitimate point.

Joe Biden on culturalism: "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

This does not even mention Biden. It's not even about Biden.

Whoopi Goldberg on 43-year-old Roman Polanski raping and sodomizing a 13-year-old girl: "I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and [sic] when they let him out he was like "You know what this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail I'm not staying, so that's why he left."

Whoopi Goldberg, or Guinan, isn't even a politician.

. Sheryl Crow on Environmentalism: "I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares [sic] of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required.'"

Again, not a politician. The link is not even about Sheryl Crow.

Joy Behar on Economics: "Isn't it a little racist to call it Black Friday?"

He is not a politician.

John Conyers on the Health Care Bill, which he voted for: "I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill ... What good is reading the bill if it's a thousand pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?'

"Page not found."

John Kerry on the troops: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

And this one can't even link to the quotes, and as far as news goes, it's filled with editorializing and it does not offer a single link to prove its claims.
I'm not a defender of the Dems (even in those few regards I might think of defending, they really don't provide anymore than lip service for the most part), but this attack you tried to launch is feeble and weak.

 

[Sunstone]

Republican Lawmaker thinks Cancer is a fungus you can flush out with baking soda...

Nevada State Lawmaker Thinks Cancer Is A Fungus You Can Flush Out

 

[metis]

Yes there are those on both sides of the political spectrum that seem to have the same disease.....foot-in-mouth-disease
a sample from: 50 Dumb Liberal Quotes | The Stir
. Sheryl Crow on Environmentalism: "I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares [sic] of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required.'"

Joe Biden on culturalism: "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

Whoopi Goldberg on 43-year-old Roman Polanski raping and sodomizing a 13-year-old girl: "I know it wasn't rape-rape. It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape. He went to jail and and [sic] when they let him out he was like "You know what this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail I'm not staying, so that's why he left."

Joy Behar on Economics: "Isn't it a little racist to call it Black Friday?"

John Conyers on the Health Care Bill, which he voted for: "I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill ... What good is reading the bill if it's a thousand pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?'

John Kerry on the troops: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Congressman Hank Johnson on Guam: "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize,"

I could keep going, but I think you get the picture.

Well, I would suggest that at least some of the above were actually said tongue-in-cheek and/or are meant to be taken as exaggerated for effect.

 

[Midnight Rain]

Well, I would suggest that at least some of the above were actually said tongue-in-cheek and/or are meant to be taken as exaggerated for effect.

And besides this isn't a liberal vs conservative thread. It is Republicans. There is a democrat thread also. Many of those were just "liberals". I would have a huge truckload of stupid stuff said by random conservative pastors and Tea Party members.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

But you can't have a steady rise in Co2 along with deforrestation and an increase human polulation encraching on areas that were once inhabited by trees, plants and grasses an assume that the remaining vegetation loves the increase Co2.

CO2 concentration ppm and effect on plants for the greenhouses gardening or indoor garden




I would simply disagree with you unless you had evidence that shows the current data by the majjority of science in the respective field is false.

Climate models accurately predicted global warming when reflecting natural ocean cycles | Dana Nuccitelli | Environment | The Guardian


How reliable are climate models? (Too much data to paste but very informative)

I'd agree we have real environmental problems to tackle, significant deforestation, overpopulation, poor sanitation, destructive farming techniques etc
but a couple extra molecules of CO2 in 10000 of air is not of them, those are firmly on the side of mother nature, plants, here. We are restoring a tiny fraction of a natural nutrient that has been long depleted, contributing to vast deserts opening up where there used to be lush vegetation, and can be again.

any temp data used by climastrologers is overwhelmingly 'interpreted, adjusted' land data, not the direct satellite data which does not agree. The fact that GISS, Nasa's Goddard institute for SPACE studies, prefers fudgeble land data over direct sateliite data is very telling in itself.