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Suppression of Free Speech on Covid
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's truly unfortunate that you can't even see the morally bankrupt politics that they are playing. We know from many studies that the vaccines, although far from being perfect, do and have worked.
My recommendation is to go by the science and not the politics. If you are not willing to do so, then it's clear what your problem is.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
stvdv
Veteran Member
Thank you for the explanation, good to know
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's not invisible to many people, but apparently it is to you. Don't worry, I'll point it out anyway.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Wow, they found a publisher for this crap. they found 6-700 autopsies online of mostly elderly patients in the last 2 years or so and low and behold, most of them had been vaccinated. They died from typical old age diseases and a few are even listed as dying of Covid. They also include in their statistics people who died by drowning, head injury, alcohol intoxication, brain hemorrhage, gastric cancer, thalassimia etc. They did no comparison to normal rates of disease nor made any connection other than their vague idea and this at a time that many people have had Covid vaccinations so having had one and dying is going to be around 70%, (actually I looked again and they find it to be 69% vaccinated globally) with no analysis of unvaccinated controls or anything else it is sheer garbage.
And who are they?
Drs Alexander, Amerling, Gessling, Hodkinson, Makis, McCullough, Risch, are affiliated with and receive salary support and/or hold equity positions in The Wellness Company, Boca Raton, FL which had no role in funding, analysis, or publication. Nothing to declare for Dr. Trozzi and Mr. Hulscher.
This is why we ignore you and your "studies"
Pogo
Well-Known Member
I wish I had read the post before I read the paper, but they definitely nailed it,"On 5 July 2023, a manuscript titled “A systematic review of autopsy findings in deaths after COVID-19 vaccination” was uploaded to the Social Science Research Network (SSRN), a preprint server associated with The Lancet. The review analyzed autopsy reports of people vaccinated against COVID-19, concluding that 73.9% of those deaths were “directly due to or significantly contributed to by COVID-19 vaccination”.
The authors’ list included several names well-known for having spread COVID-19 misinformation in the past, including Harvey Risch, Roger Hodkinson, and William Makis. The last author is cardiologist Peter McCullough, whose false claims about COVID-19 vaccines eventually led The American Board of Internal Medicine to recommend revoking his board certification in October 2022.
It is noteworthy that six of the nine authors of the review are affiliated with The Wellness Company. McCullough is the chief scientific officer of this company, which markets supplements that allegedly protect against “vaccine injury”. ...
... The review is a preprint, not a published study as claimed
Contrary to online claims, the review isn’t a published study but a preprint, which is a scientific manuscript that hasn’t been evaluated by other experts (peer review).
Since 2018, the Lancet group has collaborated with the SSRN preprint server as a platform for scientific advance and discussion of unpublished research. But a disclaimer on the group’s website warns that preprints “are not Lancet publications or necessarily under review with a Lancet journal”. Therefore, presenting this preprint as “a Lancet article” is inaccurate.
The SSRN website also clarifies that preprints “should not be used for clinical decision making or reporting of research to a lay audience without highlighting that they are preliminary research and have not been peer-reviewed”.
Indeed, peer review is a crucial step in scientific publication because it helps ensure that the methodology used in a study is adequate and the conclusions well-supported by the data presented. In contrast, preprints like the one published in SSRN lack this quality control. ...
... The methodology of the preprint is flawed, leading to poorly-founded conclusions
The fact that a person dies after COVID-19 vaccination isn’t sufficient in itself to draw conclusions about the safety of the vaccines. The reason for this is that, while a temporal association between vaccination and death is necessary to demonstrate causality, it isn’t sufficient on its own.
That is why case reports are generally inadequate for assessing causal associations, as Mitchell Levine, a professor of medicine and health research methods at McMaster University, explained to Logically Facts. Levine said that, to draw any meaningful conclusions, the preprint would at least need to compare the findings in the autopsies of vaccinated people to a control, unvaccinated group. However, the preprint showed no attempt to do so.
Instead, it proceeded to speculate on the supposed mechanisms by which COVID-19 vaccines cause harm, focusing on the alleged “deleterious effects” of the spike protein induced by vaccination.
Health Feedback evaluated earlier claims by McCullough linking the spike protein induced by vaccination with long COVID, other medical conditions, and deaths and found them to be inaccurate and incorrect. McCullough even proposed a way to counter these alleged harmful effects from vaccination. This consisted of using a supplement with no proven effectiveness that his company sells to “detoxify” from the spike protein.
Some evidence suggests that the spike protein produced during SARS-CoV-2 infection can be toxic to organs like the heart. However, this effect can’t be directly extrapolated to the spike protein induced by COVID-19 vaccines, which is different from that of the virus and produced in much smaller amounts. In fact, the evidence available indicates that the spike protein produced through vaccination is generally safe.
While certain COVID-19 vaccines have been associated with some serious side effects, including heart inflammation and blood clotting, these are very rare. This argues against a generalized toxic effect of vaccination. That said, the biological mechanisms by which the vaccine might cause these side effects remain under investigation[1], and our current understanding about the effects of the spike protein might evolve with emerging research. ...
... Studies show that COVID-19 vaccination doesn’t increase risk of death
The preprint’s discussion went on claiming that “The large number of COVID-19 vaccine induced deaths evaluated in this review is consistent with multiple papers that report excess mortality after vaccination”.
In support of this claim, the authors cited a retracted study and a preprint (again, not peer-reviewed or published in a scientific journal) by Pantazatos and Seligmann that has also been criticized for its methodological flaws.
Contrary to what the autopsy preprint suggested, reports of death following vaccination are scarce, as the CDC website explains. Furthermore, the hypothesis that COVID-19 vaccines cause or increase the risk of death is inconsistent with the results from peer-reviewed studies showing that vaccinated people don’t die at a higher rate than unvaccinated people[2,3].
Many factors other than vaccination can influence a person’s risk of death. For example, the mean age of death in the autopsies evaluated in the preprint was 70.4 years. Being of older age and underlying health conditions increase a person’s risk of death regardless of vaccination status. However, neither of these potential confounding factors was taken into account in the analysis.
Older adults also have the highest vaccine coverage in many countries, including the U.S. and many European countries, with rates close to or over 90%. In this scenario, it is expected that most deaths occur among vaccinated people. But this fact doesn’t imply that the vaccines were the cause.
In short, the preprint’s narrative directly contradicts the large body of evidence showing that COVID-19 vaccines are safe and only rarely cause serious side effects. This potential risk is very small and doesn’t outweigh the benefits of vaccination."
Flawed preprint based on autopsies inadequate to demonstrate that COVID-19 vaccines caused 74% of those deaths
Studies show that COVID-19 vaccines don’t increase the risk of death. On the contrary, they reduce it by protecting people against severe illness and death, particularly among populations at a higher risk of severe COVID-19. While COVID-19 vaccines are associated with some serious side effects...healthfeedback.org
Note, as of 17 June it has been accepted to Forensic Science International with a not bad IF of 1.99 though this article appears far from its focus.
I.e. I think somebody went shopping.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
When were you going to start pointing them out? Because you've pointed out nothing, so far.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I guess that's your opinion which clearly differs from many others.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
If it's a fact, then please point out in which posts(s) you pointed out where the smoke is.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Nope, not going back through this stupid thread. Sorry.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
No worries.Then I can't regard it as a fact.
Ebionite
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With the skyrocketing injuries and deaths associated with the Covid injections, more people are waking up to the fact that there is nothing healthful or beneficial from injecting unknown, toxic materials into the human body. This growing realization is allowing people to reflect backwards, and what was once a forbidden discussion is now openly being questioned and challenged. Andy Wakefield, whose name is now a verb describing being professionally punished, having one's medical career destroyed for daring to raise a question, shine a light on an area of concern deserving of more research, has produced an excellent gripping thriller of discovery, taking us all along on the journey. I knew about the toxic adjuvants and other ingredients in vaccines, the lack of testing, the false placebos. But I didn't know how far things had gone to falsify the research results when they do not conform to the narrative. I was on the edge of my seat. Whether you are just starting to explore this issue or very well informed, see this movie.
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Balthazzar
N. Germanic Descent
This seems to be a long standing and controversial aspect of governmental control efforts. It typically maintains a hush hush element, aside from a few "antagonists" who eventually become viewed as enemies of the state, if not worse. I question sometimes the origins of this type of effort and if it's truly something our government can control. Free speech has become a first line of defense and the same is true for the limitation of. It's a powerful tool, the word, and very effective when in the hands of those able to wield it with some precision.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Friday, June 21, 2024
Nearly a quarter of those who got vaccinated against COVID-19 regret it, and a third agree with a medical expert’s condemnation of the vaccine as deadly.
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Nearly a quarter of those who got vaccinated against COVID-19 regret it, and a third agree with a medical expert’s condemnation of the vaccine as deadly.
33% Agree COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Is Killing Large Numbers of People’
Nearly a quarter of those who got vaccinated against COVID-19 regret it, and a third agree with a medical expert’s condemnation of the vaccine as deadly.
And even greater percentage agree thatFriday, June 21, 2024
Nearly a quarter of those who got vaccinated against COVID-19 regret it, and a third agree with a medical expert’s condemnation of the vaccine as deadly.
33% Agree COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Is Killing Large Numbers of People’
Nearly a quarter of those who got vaccinated against COVID-19 regret it, and a third agree with a medical expert’s condemnation of the vaccine as deadly.
Jesus is their lord & savior. Evidence is
lacking for both beliefs. So belief is a
poor measure of reality.