Pogo
Well-Known Member
Exactly, watching a video is not the equivalent of reading to one who has stated they will only read. Thus we are questioning your reading comprehension, you do understand the difference between reading and watching?
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Suppression of Free Speech on Covid
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Ebionite
Well-Known Member
What I understand is that you're not worth responding to. You're on ignore.
That was his point. Let's recap the discussion:
You: "Your lack of reading comprehension is about consistent with your refusal to face the facts about the injury caused by the "safe and effective vaccine"
He: "Reading comprehension?"
You: "It's what some people exercise when they respond to a post. Maybe someone else will explain it to you."
You: "Watching and listening to a video does not involve reading comprehension. Apparently the ability to reason is also a problem for the big pharma fanbois"
He: "Exactly, watching a video is not the equivalent of reading to one who has stated they will only read. Thus we are questioning your reading comprehension, you do understand the difference between reading and watching?"
You: "What I understand is that you're not worth responding to. You're on ignore."
He: "Reading comprehension?"
You: "It's what some people exercise when they respond to a post. Maybe someone else will explain it to you."
You: "Watching and listening to a video does not involve reading comprehension. Apparently the ability to reason is also a problem for the big pharma fanbois"
He: "Exactly, watching a video is not the equivalent of reading to one who has stated they will only read. Thus we are questioning your reading comprehension, you do understand the difference between reading and watching?"
You: "What I understand is that you're not worth responding to. You're on ignore."
Not your finest hour. This kind of chaotic thinking undermines your other claims.
But it's YOU that has the reading comprehension deficit. It's more important than ever when criticizing somebody else's ability to think well that you do not make blunders like these yourself.
Do you see withholding your responses to a particular poster as some kind of leverage? Should he count that a loss?
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
No, that was my point. I made the following statement, not Pogo.
"Watching and listening to a video does not involve reading comprehension." (my #1660)
The fact that Pogo agreed with that statement does not make it his point.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
From Peter McCullough:
The COVID-19 crisis and the mass vaccination debacle has caused all of us to re-evaluate the ever-expanding childhood and adult CDC ACIP vaccine schedule and similar programs outside of the United States.
...
This new video “Do Vaccines Make Us Healthier?”, updated for 2024, catalogues important control group science to answer the question, and discusses a legal solution being introduced in the 2024 Congress:
RESOURCES Courtesy of Greg Glaser and Dr. Brian Hooker
1. Unvaccinated Study #1: Analysis of health outcomes in vaccinated and unvaccinated children: Developmental delays, asthma, ear infections and gastrointestinal disorders - https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2050312120925344
Link
In this study, which only allowed for the calculation of unadjusted observational associations, higher ORs were observed within the vaccinated versus unvaccinated group for developmental delays, asthma and ear infections.
The COVID-19 crisis and the mass vaccination debacle has caused all of us to re-evaluate the ever-expanding childhood and adult CDC ACIP vaccine schedule and similar programs outside of the United States.
...
This new video “Do Vaccines Make Us Healthier?”, updated for 2024, catalogues important control group science to answer the question, and discusses a legal solution being introduced in the 2024 Congress:
RESOURCES Courtesy of Greg Glaser and Dr. Brian Hooker
1. Unvaccinated Study #1: Analysis of health outcomes in vaccinated and unvaccinated children: Developmental delays, asthma, ear infections and gastrointestinal disorders - https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2050312120925344
Link
In this study, which only allowed for the calculation of unadjusted observational associations, higher ORs were observed within the vaccinated versus unvaccinated group for developmental delays, asthma and ear infections.
Then you didn't understand what he meant by "Reading comprehension?," which preceded your comment in quotes in this quote section. He questioned your use of the phrase in reference to watching and listening to a video, which he confirmed with his next comment. It looks like you treated the comment as asking you what reading comprehension means given your condescending definition of the term.
It's actually YOU agreeing with HIS point.
As I said before, this is not your finest hour. Your confusion due reading incomprehension and your insolence are in black and white here. One of the most embarrassing mistakes possible here is to criticize somebody else's intelligence and making mistakes doing it such as condemning the reading comprehension of others while failing to have understood what he wrote and you read yourself. Just yesterday, an RF creationist called somebody an "imbocile."
Here's a classic case of that. One doesn't want to do anything like that ever:
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Again you are wrong. It was a obviously a question, which would imply a request for clarification.
Yes.
You're ignoring the context of his inane response (quoted in my #1641) regarding the difference bewteen a OIA response for which there was no information available and one in which the available information was redacted.
You're ignoring that data that shows that the unvaccinated are better off.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Lawsuit Seeks to ‘Ban the Jab’ in Florida — Declares Injections Biological and Technological Weapons
On March 3rd, 2024, Dr. Joseph Sansone filed a Writ of Mandamus in the Supreme Court of Florida seeking to compel Governor Ron DeSantis to prohibit the distribution of Covid 19 injections (nanoparticle injections/mRNA injections) in the State of Florida.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
The writ was denied and Sansone has indicated that he indends to appeal.
On March 3rd, 2024, Dr. Joseph Sansone filed a Writ of Mandamus in the Supreme Court of Florida seeking to compel Governor Ron DeSantis to prohibit the distribution of Covid 19 injections (nanoparticle injections/mRNA injections) in the State of Florida.
Lawsuit Seeks to ‘Ban the Jab’ in Florida — Declares Injections Biological and Technological Weapons | The Gateway Pundit | by Guest Contributor
Guest post by Dr.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
The writ was denied and Sansone has indicated that he indends to appeal.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
BREAKING: 4x Vaccinated Youth 318% More Likely to Die Than Unvaxxed Peers, Office for National Statistics Confirms
The UK ONS released shocking data on mortality rates per 100,000 for teens and young adults vaccinated against COVID-19. Analysis revealed significantly higher mortality rates for four-dose vaccina…
expose-news.com
Except that it was a rhetorical question, meaning a statement ending in a question mark, like "How would I know," which is not a question (interrogative) seeking an answer or clarification, but a way of writing the declarative sentence, "I have no way of knowing."
Perhaps you did mistake his comment for a request for clarification, but that brings us back to the subject of comprehending what is read.
The only relevant context is that you referred to reading comprehension when discussing a video. I don't know what OIA stands for, but it doesn't matter
You have no such data. The data we have says the opposite.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I've seen much of the data as reported in numerous articles in Scientific American plus other sources, such as the Mayo Clinic studies that I have posted twice.
Here's some more links: Explaining How Vaccines Work
How do vaccines work?
What Is the Purpose of Vaccines?
Vaccines serve the purpose of protecting you from diseases. Learn how your immune system reacts to vaccines to provide protection.
How do different types of COVID-19 vaccines work?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Published studies misrepresented by cardiologist Peter McCullough to push false claim that COVID-19 vaccines cause sudden cardiac death - Science Feedback
Studies so far haven’t shown any association between COVID-19 vaccines and mortality risk or sudden death. All medical interventions come with side effects and COVID-19 vaccines are no exception. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are linked to an increased risk of heart inflammation in adolescent and young...
You need better sources.
The Biden administration "ran afoul" of the First Amendment by trying to pressure social media platforms over controversial COVID-19 content, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans ruled Friday.
Biden administration violated First Amendment over COVID-19 content on social media, court of appeals rules
The Biden administration violated the First Amendment by trying to "coerce" social media platforms to remove coronavirus content it found problematic, a federal court of appeals ruled.news.yahoo.com
I think not only did they pressure websites -- but also silenced opposing medical voices to maintain a narrative. IMV
Makes one wonder how many platforms were forced to police, or make their own decision, as to what was right and what was wrong violating Constitutional free speech and the conversations that were pertinent to the issue.
I recall my wife got very ill because of the Covid vaccine. She got singles. I read the vaccine would suppress one's immune system which made a person more susceptible to other viruses. When I mentioned this to my boss at work he got upset and basically said I wasn't allowed to say that. Even though it was true as confirmed by her doctor and my own research.
Should a truth be suppressed because it will give people a reason to be cautious about getting the vaccine?
If the truth has a chance of causing people to act in a way you'd prefer them not to act...
Who gets to make that decision.
No.
But you are allowed to say that, just not at work perhaps.
And yes, you are correct about Covid shots activating shingles. There is evidence that repeated boosters, especially if given too close to one another and especially in the elderly and in those with preexisting conditions, can lead to enough immunosuppression to activate shingles, which is occasionally devastating: Adverse effects of COVID-19 vaccines and measures to prevent them.
Shingles, as you know, is the result of a viral infection usually acquired decades earlier, and underscores the fact that some viruses make permanent homes in our bodies that can result in long-term sequelae. Besides shingles being long VZV (varicella-zoster virus) and that AIDS is long HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), which most people seem to know, cervical cancer is long HPV (papillomavirus), Multiple Sclerosis is long EBV (Epstein-Barr Virus), Alzheimer's is long HSV (herpes simplex virus), and liver cancer is long HCV (hepatitis C virus).
And we know that severe Covid infections produce irreversible organ damage, especially in the brain, lungs, heart, and kidney:
LUNG
New study into long-term impacts of lung damage after COVID-19 – UKRI
Study examines the effect of long COVID on lung health (medicalnewstoday.com)
KIDNEY
COVID-19 and Your Kidneys: What You Should Know
Long-term effects of Covid-19 on the kidney | QJM: An International Journal of Medicine | Oxford Academic (oup.com)
HEART
The COVID Heart—One Year After SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Patients Have an Array of Increased Cardiovascular Risks | Cardiology | JAMA | JAMA Network
COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects - Mayo Clinic
BRAIN
Severe COVID-19 can trigger drop in IQ similar to aging 20 years, study shows - UPI.com
COVID-19 and Your Brain: What You Should Know
It gets even more complicated. Immune suppression from past vaccines makes future vaccines less effective. And there is a vaccine for shingles.
As for myself, I'm almost 70 years old now, was vaccinated as soon as vaccines were available, and had my most recent booster last fall. We avoided the virus before vaccination, and perhaps since then as well, although we both had an unidentified upper respiratory track infection about six months ago which may have been Covid. We didn't feel the need to test, since we quarantined ourselves, which we would have done even for a simple cold, so we don't know.
My point is that if I've had that bug, I had it with a prepared immune system, which I assume minimized the viral load and the duration of the active phase of the illness, and thus the degree to which the virus penetrated and made a home in my tissues.
We need to assess the risk of being vaccinated compared to the risk of being unvaccinated. I will continue to take the risk of the vaccinating for Covid. But that might change in the future.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass COVID vaccine rollout in 2021 as the prime culprit.
THE APPROACHING ‘TIDAL WAVE’ OF CANCER - The HighWire
Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass...
thehighwire.com
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And you use that as your source??? What's next-- proof from old copies from MAD magazine?Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass COVID vaccine rollout in 2021 as the prime culprit.
THE APPROACHING ‘TIDAL WAVE’ OF CANCER - The HighWire
Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass...thehighwire.com
IOW, all you are doing is grasping at straws using whatever source fits your paradigm. I can't even access that source because it forces you to join it in order to even read it. Did you sign up for it? If so, then maybe copy & paste here what it says.
Vaccines work, but basically all meds have some side effects.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Now the vaccine causes cancer?Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass COVID vaccine rollout in 2021 as the prime culprit.
THE APPROACHING ‘TIDAL WAVE’ OF CANCER - The HighWire
Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass...thehighwire.com
LOL Is there anything it doesn't do??
Your video doesn't support your linking the uptick in cancer cases with Covid vaccinations. At 1:31 we hear:Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass COVID vaccine rollout in 2021 as the prime culprit.
THE APPROACHING ‘TIDAL WAVE’ OF CANCER - The HighWire
Many have abandoned the media’s desperate attempt to ignore why cancer rates are spiking. Now, the American Cancer Society is sounding the alarm, predicting an 80% increase in tumors by 2050. Meanwhile, independent researchers have stepped up and honed in on credible sources pointing to the mass...thehighwire.com
"The scariest thing about this is that we actually don't know what is driving this uptick." But Ebionite thinks he does.
You mentioned other "independent researchers" but didn't cite them. Could they be the four out of five dentists who chew gum or recommend a toothpaste?
Don't you hate it when people look at your links rather than just take your word for what they say or imply, or when they expect you to back your claims up? What you offer is enough for the people you can gaslight. It looks sciency, and it had an ominous sounding soundtrack, which ought to be a red flag, but that that's enough to convince people able to evaluate claims critically.
McBell
Unbound
Seems much more like a win to me...