SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
It's a vaccine.
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Suppression of Free Speech on Covid
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
OK you call it that if you like and I will call it what I like, which is also what everyone else seems to call it. Including my doctor.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
You can call it a snerfleberg if you choose, but it's still a vaccine, nonetheless.
"What is a flu vaccine?
Influenza (flu) vaccines (often called “flu shots”) are vaccines that protect against the four influenza viruses that research indicates will be most common during the upcoming season. Most flu vaccines are “flu shots” given with a needle, usually in the arm, but there also is a nasal spray flu vaccine."Seasonal Flu Vaccines | CDC
Flu shot info including recommended groups, effectiveness and flu-like symptoms - CDC
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
OK, and you do know, @SkepticThinker, that the definition for "vaccine" was changed around the same time as the pandemic, right? I mean, according to Merriam Webster.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
"CLAIM: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has changed its definition of vaccination because COVID-19 vaccines are ineffective.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The CDC has altered the language in the definition of vaccination on its website, including after the development of COVID-19 vaccines, but the changes were made to prevent potential misinterpretations, and did not alter the overall definition, according to the agency. Experts confirmed to The Associated Press that the changes reflect the evolution of vaccine research and technology...
... The CDC told the AP in a statement that it made the language shifts to add detail and increase transparency.
“While there have been slight changes in wording over time to the definition of ‘vaccine’ on CDC’s website, those haven’t impacted the overall definition,” the statement said, noting that the previous definition “could be interpreted to mean that vaccines were 100% effective, which has never been the case for any vaccine.”
Dr. John P. Moore, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the Weill Cornell School of Medicine, said Massie’s remarks amounted to “disinformation” and were based on “semantics not science.”
Experts say changes to CDC’s vaccination definition are normal
The suggestion that COVID-19 vaccine ineffectiveness led the CDC to change its definition of the word online was amplified this week by U.S. Rep.
These things aren't unusual. The APA modifies the DSM and definitions of disorders from time to time as well, to keep the definitions accurate and as up-to-date with the science as possible.
Do you think there was some sort of nefarious plan at work here?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
"CLAIM: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has changed its definition of vaccination because COVID-19 vaccines are ineffective.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The CDC has altered the language in the definition of vaccination on its website, including after the development of COVID-19 vaccines, but the changes were made to prevent potential misinterpretations, and did not alter the overall definition, according to the agency. Experts confirmed to The Associated Press that the changes reflect the evolution of vaccine research and technology...
... The CDC told the AP in a statement that it made the language shifts to add detail and increase transparency.
“While there have been slight changes in wording over time to the definition of ‘vaccine’ on CDC’s website, those haven’t impacted the overall definition,” the statement said, noting that the previous definition “could be interpreted to mean that vaccines were 100% effective, which has never been the case for any vaccine.”
Dr. John P. Moore, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the Weill Cornell School of Medicine, said Massie’s remarks amounted to “disinformation” and were based on “semantics not science.”
Experts say changes to CDC’s vaccination definition are normal
The suggestion that COVID-19 vaccine ineffectiveness led the CDC to change its definition of the word online was amplified this week by U.S. Rep.apnews.com
These things aren't unusual. The APA modifies the DSM and definitions of disorders from time to time as well, to keep the definitions accurate and as up-to-date with the science as possible.
Do you think there was some sort of nefarious plan at work here?
Fact check: Missing context in claim that Merriam-Webster changed 'vaccine' definition
Merriam-Webster changed "immunity" to "immune response" in its definition of "vaccine" to be more scientifically accurate, the dictionary said.
www.usatoday.com
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
You're taking issue with Merriam-Webster altering it's definition? Why?Fact check: Missing context in claim that Merriam-Webster changed 'vaccine' definition
Merriam-Webster changed "immunity" to "immune response" in its definition of "vaccine" to be more scientifically accurate, the dictionary said.www.usatoday.com
Dictionaries are written to reflect word usage. If the usage of the word has changed slightly, should that not be reflected in the books we use to denote word usage?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yeah, sure.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Why are you talking issue?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yeah, sure .... ?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Sure.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
What is your point if you have any?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
My point is that I am done arguing, or as you may prefer "debating." I have multiple people here. Sorry.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Okay.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Some vaccines are like that, such as the flu vaccines I get every year.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Which is a "vaccine".
McBell
Unbound
Do you know how many times the definition has changed to keep up with the advances in medicine?Fact check: Missing context in claim that Merriam-Webster changed 'vaccine' definition
Merriam-Webster changed "immunity" to "immune response" in its definition of "vaccine" to be more scientifically accurate, the dictionary said.www.usatoday.com
Do you have the same concerns for all of the other times it was changed, or just this time?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
The timing was not ideal.