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Supreme Court has banned abortions

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
God gave human free will, that means if a woman chose to take an abortion. It is her choice.

Yes, She can say, God tells me to not do it. But it will be her choice.
Not every pregnant woman believe in God.
Then, why can't she kill her toddler too?
It's her choice.
Or not, because there's another person involved who doesn't get a vote.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Then, why can't she kill her toddler too?
It's her choice.
Or not, because there's another person involved who doesn't get a vote.
You need to be sentient to be able vote. (Otherwise, you void the meaning of the word sentient.)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I guess you are unaware of what republicans in Michigan are doing:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/31/michigan-abortion-ballot/

The republicans are blocking the public vote because of spacing on the written document.
This may surprise you, but I am all for that action by the Republicans. The timing could not be better. We are two months away from a midterm election where most likely everyone except for possibly the governor has to run again in Michigan. These Republicans have shown that they did not learn anything from either Kansas or Alaska.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
Antibiotics have nothing to do with what the pill is, that is etinilestradiol plus drospirenone .
The effectiveness of the pill taken regularly and without flaws is more than 99%
Source: How effective is contraception at preventing pregnancy?.


If a woman gets pregnant, despite taking the pill regularly, well..it means that her husband or boyfriend has an extraordinarily high male fertility and an extraordinary prowess.

Will antibiotics stop my contraception working?

Most antibiotics do not affect contraception. It's now thought that the only types of antibiotic that interact with hormonal contraception and make it less effective are rifampicin-like antibiotics.

These can be used to treat or prevent diseases, including tuberculosis and meningitis.

They include:

  • rifampicin
  • rifabutin
These types of antibiotics can increase the enzymes in your body. This is known as being "enzyme-inducing" and can affect hormonal contraception.

If you're taking enzyme-inducing antibiotics while using hormonal contraception, to avoid getting pregnant you'll need to:

  • use additional contraception, such as condoms
  • change to a different method of contraception, or
  • take your contraception in a different way
Emphasis mine.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, and they're doing it on a technicality whereas the words are too close together, which is easily fixable. Thus, the Pubs on the commission really don't want people to actually vote on this-- democracy in action! :rolleyes:
Well I guess that is better than doing so because they fanatically oppose abortion. I can appreciate that. It is the same reaction that I have when I see "I could care less" or "anyways":mad::mad::rolleyes:
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There are two gods' fight going on. The satan fights the God. God is more powerful than satan, but satan uses civilians to attack God. Because God loves civilians. So, the compromises happen. Without them the satan will kill many civilians.
So you view humans as pawns in God's war with Satan? It's more important to God to have a war with the Devil, than to spare us the colleterial damage caused by it, because He is unable or unwilling to withdraw from a fight where there is no contest to begin with?

This does not sound like any love as I recognize it, nor does it sound very pro-life either. It sounds more like pro-war, all ego-based fighting, to be honest. That doesn't match my views about God at all.

To get closer to people the Jesus has used alcohol.
You have to explain this. Do you believe people who drink alcohol are trying to know God better?

Yes, if you can. But it is your decision, the priest does not force you to do right thing.
You believe the priest is infallible, and might not himself be mistaken, or just speaking from his own personal human points of view, no better nor worse than your own?

They could lie. The satan is the liar. So, the sinners can lie. Can lie to themselves.
Scripture teaches that if they are sincerely convinced in their own minds, then they are not lying before God. They are being truthful before God. And their truth, may not be your truth. Do you not understand that from the Scriptures?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Then, why can't she kill her toddler too?
It's her choice.
Or not, because there's another person involved who doesn't get a vote.
Is the toddler leaching off of the blood of the mother? Can she not be separated from it for even a few minutes? Is the toddler continually doing grievous bodily harm to the mother?

I find that you still do not understand bodily autonomy after all of this time.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
You have to explain this. Do you believe people who drink alcohol are trying to know God better?
Jesus has used the alcohol to try to save as many people as possible:

For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Luke 7:33-34
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Jesus has used the alcohol to try to save as many people as possible:

For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Luke 7:33-34
So you believe that we should get drunk in order to find God? This seems the opposite of what scripture teaches. Is this how you practice your faith, though intoxication? Should people in AA repent and go back to being drunks again in order to know Jesus better?

Do you really mean to say this?
 
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