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Supreme Court has banned abortions

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes pretty much. You ever had a toddler?

That unborn child is a separate entity. It's not her.
Nope, first off you already admitted that you were wrong by using the phrase "unborn child".. Thanks for admitting that you are wrong by arguing that way.

Second the fetus or embryo or blastocyst relies on the woman's body for sustenance and does harm her through the process.

Until you are ready to let someone else tap into your blood system to use your kidneys for nine months and scar you for life, even though you did not agree to such a procedure your argument fails. And that is when one deals with an actual person.

You still cannot show that even a fetus is a person.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
It's more important to God to have a war with the Devil, than to spare us
We are soldiers of satan when we do sins like abortions. If God would vanish the satan, we will resurrect him again by doing sin. Because satan is sin and sin is satan. The satan is spirit. Hence, he is abortion itself. His name is Abortion.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
There are two gods' fight going on. The satan fights the God. God is more powerful than satan, but satan uses civilians to attack God. Because God loves civilians. So, the compromises happen. Without them the satan will kill many civilians.
To get closer to people the Jesus has used alcohol.



Yes, if you can. But it is your decision, the priest does not force you to do right thing.



They could lie. The satan is the liar. So, the sinners can lie. Can lie to themselves.

It is pretty weird to believe that Satan even exists.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Nope, first off you already admitted that you were wrong by using the phrase "unborn child".. Thanks for admitting that you are wrong by arguing that way.

Second the fetus or embryo or blastocyst relies on the woman's body for sustenance and does harm her through the process.

Until you are ready to let someone else tap into your blood system to use your kidneys for nine months and scar you for life, even though you did not agree to such a procedure your argument fails. And that is when one deals with an actual person.

You still cannot show that even a fetus is a person.

" even though you did not agree to such a procedure"

There is always that known possibility when one has sex. If they choose to have sex they are knowingly agreeing that possibility may happen.

Like joining the military. No one joins to die are be maimed but that's a known possibility. If they choose to join they are knowingly agreeing that possibility may happen.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
We are soldiers of satan when we do sins like abortions. If God would vanish the satan, we will resurrect him again by doing sin. Because satan is sin and sin is satan. The satan is spirit. Hence, he is abortion itself. His name is Abortion.
Where in the bible is this explained?
I have never heard any Christians explain it this way before.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
It is pretty weird to believe that Satan even exists.
the satan is present, but not existent. Existent thing came from God. The Holy Lucifer came from God, but he has lost the right to exist. The presence has remained. It is like zombie or vampire; they are walking dead.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
List me dogmas I have "violated". I am not aware of these violations.
Who day anything about voilated?

The "Christianity" you speak of, I have never heard anyone explaining it as you do.

It kind of does not sound like Christianity at all no matter Orthodox or not.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
" even though you did not agree to such a procedure"

There is always that known possibility when one has sex. If they choose to have sex they are knowingly agreeing that possibility may happen.

Like joining the military. No one joins to die are be maimed but that's a known possibility. If they choose to join they are knowingly agreeing that possibility may happen.
Yes, it is a possibility. That does not mean that someone agreed to getting pregnant. When I walk down the streets at night there is a possibility that someone could try to rob me. Does that mean that I agreed to it?

Just because something can happen due to an activity does not mean that somebody agreed for that to happen. Pregnancy is possible even when one uses contraceptive measures. They are not always perfect. Sex is going to happen. It is not up to you or me to tell others that they cannot have sex. Nor can we tell people that they have to go through a pregnancy if it happens. You lose that debate if you try to enter into it.

Now I am not totally set on unlimited abortions. I can see limiting them after viability. Even though a fetus is arguably still not a person at that time it is getting too close to me personally. But even though a fetus can look very human it does lack the spark that a person has. And most abortions occur before the fetal stage.

Of course from a Christian perspective the Bible is more prochoice than prolife. The one verse that some Christians quote that they think supports them best has a changed translation. Exodus 22 21 use to say that the result of the man accidentally striking a woman was a miscarriage. If you have a pre Roe v Wade Bible you can read it and see for yourself. I even found a source that quoted one translation's two different versions. Then there is a test of an unfaithful wife in Numbers where a chemical abortion is performed in a temple. The only prolife verses are the ones that are extremely poetic in nature. Those are contradicted by the verses that imply an embryo or fetus is not a person.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
This may surprise you, but I am all for that action by the Republicans. The timing could not be better. We are two months away from a midterm election where most likely everyone except for possibly the governor has to run again in Michigan. These Republicans have shown that they did not learn anything from either Kansas or Alaska.
Yes Republicans are putting their heads on The block but will the voters swing the ax. We can see that there is approximately 60 to 65% of any population that are true MAGAs and the other 30% of Republicans are ethical. So we can hope that Republican voters decide to pick more ethical Democrats over these corrupt Republican candidates.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes Republicans are putting their heads on The block but will the voters swing the ax. We can see that there is approximately 60 to 65% of any population that are true MAGAs and the other 30% of Republicans are ethical. So we can hope that Republican voters decide to pick more ethical Democrats over these corrupt Republican candidates.

The good news is that in an election everyone votes. It will take only a few percent to throw quite a few of the elections to the Democrats
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Yes, it is a possibility. That does not mean that someone agreed to getting pregnant. When I walk down the streets at night there is a possibility that someone could try to rob me. Does that mean that I agreed to it?

Just because something can happen due to an activity does not mean that somebody agreed for that to happen. Pregnancy is possible even when one uses contraceptive measures. They are not always perfect. Sex is going to happen. It is not up to you or me to tell others that they cannot have sex. Nor can we tell people that they have to go through a pregnancy if it happens. You lose that debate if you try to enter into it.

Now I am not totally set on unlimited abortions. I can see limiting them after viability. Even though a fetus is arguably still not a person at that time it is getting too close to me personally. But even though a fetus can look very human it does lack the spark that a person has. And most abortions occur before the fetal stage.

Of course from a Christian perspective the Bible is more prochoice than prolife. The one verse that some Christians quote that they think supports them best has a changed translation. Exodus 22 21 use to say that the result of the man accidentally striking a woman was a miscarriage. If you have a pre Roe v Wade Bible you can read it and see for yourself. I even found a source that quoted one translation's two different versions. Then there is a test of an unfaithful wife in Numbers where a chemical abortion is performed in a temple. The only prolife verses are the ones that are extremely poetic in nature. Those are contradicted by the verses that imply an embryo or fetus is not a person.

"Does that mean that I agreed to it?"

You knew there is a possibility/risk that it could happen. You accept the risk when you walk knowing what could happen.
 
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