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Supreme Court has banned abortions

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
We Never Know said:
"Does that mean that I agreed to it?"

You knew there is a possibility/risk that it could happen. You accept the risk when you walk knowing what could happen.
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Yes, you accept the risk. So what? That does not mean that one cannot end that pregnancy. This is what antiabortionists cannot understand. If someone wants to ban an activity that puts the burden of proof upon the person trying to ban that particular activity. I understand that you do not like others having abortions. How can you justify not allowing them to do so?
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Seeker of White Light said:
It kind of does not sound like Christianity at all no matter Orthodox or not.
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I am a child.

And you, My child, will be called a prophet of the Most High;
for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for Him,
to give his people the knowledge of salvation
through the forgiveness of their sins,
because of the tender mercy of our God,
by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven
to shine on those living in darkness
and in the shadow of death,
to guide our feet into the path of peace.”
And the child grew and became strong in spirit; and he lived in the wilderness until he appeared publicly to Israel. Luke 1:76-80
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
questfortruth said:
the satan is present, but not existent. Existent thing came from God. The Holy Lucifer came from God, but he has lost the right to exist. The presence has remained. It is like zombie or vampire; they are walking dead.
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Do you also write science fiction alongside your fantasy.
 
We Never Know

We Never Know

No Slack
Subduction Zone said:
Yes, you accept the risk. So what? That does not mean that one cannot end that pregnancy. This is what antiabortionists cannot understand. If someone wants to ban an activity that puts the burden of proof upon the person trying to ban that particular activity. I understand that you do not like others having abortions. How can you justify not allowing them to do so?
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I'm not against all abortions. Rape, incest, molestation, mothers health at risk should have that option.
I will even say they all should have a "get out of jail free"(an abortion available) after that, carefulness and precautions should be first priority or accept the outcome of your choices.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
We Never Know said:
I'm not against all abortions. Rape, incest, molestation, mothers health at risk should have that option.
I will even say they all should have a "get out of jail free"(an abortion available) after that, carefulness and precautions should be first priority or accept the outcome of your choices.
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Even if they are "careless" (but that would be something that you would have to prove) you still do not seem to have a valid reason for banning abortions. You do not get to punish others because they do something that you do not approve of.
 
It Aint Necessarily So

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
questfortruth said:
Tell us what "good" does it make to kill an unborn black baby girl?
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Abortion need do no good except in the eyes of the potential mother. Nevertheless, it is good for all of us if it's good for her. If she doesn't want this baby, why force her to have it? It's unwanted. The mother is either uninterested in having this child. That's all that matters. Maybe she doesn't want children. Maybe she doesn't want one now. She doesn't need to justify herself to strangers.

Abortion is a good thing that it helps all of the rest if us as well, and very possibly the fetus that was spared a life of poverty, violence, and foster homes, not to mention the climatic hellscape that appears to be coming.

More children is not healthy for society. Imagine how many more people would be competing for potable water and power for their air conditioners, sweltering, running from their burning homes, filling foster child programs, burning fossil fuels, and the like had the 63 million American aborted fetuses and the subsequent (up to four generations of) never born descendants had been born instead.

questfortruth said:
She is better to watch TV. Less sex, more TV. Stop the sinful lust. More Love, less lust. More children, less killings.
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She's not interested in what you believe. Plus, you're incorrect. Lust and sex are healthy if channeled safely and mindfully. Prudery and sexual constipation, however, can be health and social problems. How many marriages have been harmed because one partner has been convinced of what you believe, but not the other?

questfortruth said:
God has to judge. He is the Supreme Judge.
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Not in my life. I am. I decide what is true and what is just, not somebody speaking for unseen gods - unless I let them. Why would any skeptic do that? Such people have no good ideas not available without religion. Their best more modern ideas come from humanism, which taught them that slavery is immoral but homosexuality is not. Why would skeptics take advice from such sources?

questfortruth said:
God of Life is Pro-life.
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Yours is not a god of life. Nor love, nor mercy, nor justice. You should look to humanists for guidance there.
 
It Aint Necessarily So

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
questfortruth said:
There are two gods' fight going on. The satan fights the God. God is more powerful than satan
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Religion hasn't been good for you. I imagine you'd be a lot less tortured if nobody had ever put ideas like that in your head.

questfortruth said:
true love is mutual.
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That's untrue even in your own religion much less daily life. Love doesn't need to be returned to be true.

questfortruth said:
Bible is very ancient text, which needs a good interpretation.
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Biblical language is easily parsed. Much of it contradicts itself, but that is easy to see for any open-minded reader. It also contains much vague language, which means whatever one wants it to mean if he is undisciplined, and nothing at all if one avoids projecting his own psyche into the vague language. It's filled with errors of fact, which are easily found if one is versed in science and history. It is easily understood as the mythology of a strain of people evolving from a brutal, warlike god into to a gentler one, with many extraordinary claims that can't be verified.

questfortruth said:
You hate me.
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You're projecting. You hate atheists. They don't hate you. Yet another gift of your faith to you and the unbelievers you encounter.

questfortruth said:
We are soldiers of satan when we do sins like abortions.
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More like sailors or Marines. Soldier would be appropriate if fetuses were terrestrial, air-breathing creatures, but they're not. They're aquatic.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
questfortruth said:
What about suicide? This sin has to be banned from public space. But abortion is sin too.
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We can discuss suicide another time. It may or may not be a sin.

When you run from questions it looks very very bad. You have not shown that abortion is a sin. You have only claimed that it is. It is clearly not murder so why ban it?
 
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