Tara Reade who accuses Biden of sexual assault now fears for her life.

[Estro Felino]

Not all of them. Being sexually assaulted is a complex web of emotions which include shame, fear, and social anxiety. So much of it does go unreported, and may never be.

You know...once a feminist on YT said that women have the right to consider a sexual act rape, even after the intercourse.
Meaning: even if they gave their consent at the beginning of the act, during and at the end, they could reconsider and change their mind, afterwards...on the following day.

This is utterly disgusting and horrific.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I condemn rape too.
But there should be the evidence of it in the police records,...or something,
Victims of rape go to the police the following day, not after 20 years.

Actually, many rape victims do not do that because they are ashamed, afraid they won't be believed, embarrassed, stigmatized, experience anxiety, feelings of powerlessness, trauma, etc., etc. - All the reasons I gave you the last time we had this conversation a couple of days ago.

Do you remember that at all? It seems like you don't and you're just sticking to your talking points, regardless.

 

[Estro Felino]

Actually, many rape victims do not do that because they are ashamed, afraid they won't be believed, embarrassed, stigmatized, experience anxiety, feelings of powerlessness, trauma, etc., etc. - All the reasons I gave you the last time we had this conversation a couple of days ago.

Do you remember that at all? It seems like you don't and you're just sticking to your talking points, regardless.

Why don't you deepen this subject in my thread?

Men and women. Friends or foes?

I think politics lately exploits the gender studies in the United States, particularly. I have been noting that the cultural and anthropological distance between the male gender and the female one has widened consistently. And constantly. Since the nineties, I guess. Since the Clinton-Lewinski...

www.religiousforums.com

Since you seem very informed on the dynamics between man and woman.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You know...once a feminist on YT said that women have the right to consider a sexual act rape, even after the intercourse.
Meaning: even if they gave their consent at the beginning of the act, during and at the end, they could reconsider and change their mind, afterwards...on the following day.

This is utterly disgusting and horrific.

Not really. But it sounds like maybe you didn't hear that right ...

Let's say you're in the middle of the act of having sexual intercourse. All of a sudden and for unknown reasons, it really starts to hurt. You say to your partner "we have to stop, it's really hurting me!" Said partner decides to continue until the "end" anyway. You've withdrawn your initial consent, right?

Or let's say you're in the middle of doing it, and your partner gets too carried away for your liking and starts smacking you across the face. You tell him/her you don't want to do it anymore and withdraw your consent. You've withdrawn your initial consent, right?

Why don't you deepen this subject in my thread?

Men and women. Friends or foes?

I think politics lately exploits the gender studies in the United States, particularly. I have been noting that the cultural and anthropological distance between the male gender and the female one has widened consistently. And constantly. Since the nineties, I guess. Since the Clinton-Lewinski...

www.religiousforums.com

It would be super cool if you'd acknowledge and took in what I said.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Re-post it in my thread, so we can avoid derailing this thread.

Um, you brought it up.

So you're just not going to acknowledge what I said?

 

[Estro Felino]

Um, you brought it up.

So you're just not going to acknowledge what I said?

I made that thread to stop derailing political threads.

If you're interested in debating with me, go to that thread.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I made that thread to stop derailing political threads.

If you're interested in debating with me, go to that thread.

Okay, so, no.
Can't wait to have the exact same conversation all over again.

 

[Estro Felino]

Okay, so, no.
Can't wait to have the exact same conversation all over again.

No.
Actually I was talking to another poster.
Who was interested in talking to me.

 

[Colt]

It's nice to see the political rivals of RF agree on something: Sexual assault is bad.

It can all sound a little Jessie Smollett at times.

 

[Colt]

 

[Estro Felino]

Fortunately cameras expose liars and deceivers.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Honestly...I don't think allegations arising after 25 years have a high level of credibility.
Whether they are against a leftist or a rightist.

Unfortunately people are terribly biased and partial and will only believe in those which affect the inimical party.

Long term allegations involving wealthy famous people are certainly a trend these days.

I sometimes wonder if it involved a person who is not famous, rich, and powerful, if it would have even been a thing worth bothering over.

 

[Estro Felino]

Long term allegations involving wealthy famous people are certainly a trend these days.

I sometimes wonder if it involved a person who is not famous, rich, and powerful, if it would have even been a thing worth bothering over.

We have reached the point where I am entitled to say I slept with Leonardo Di Caprio many, many years ago, and people are asked to believe me on trust, even if I bring zero evidence.

 

[Twilight Hue]

We have reached the point where I am entitled to say I slept with Leonardo Di Caprio many, many years ago, and people are asked to believe me on trust, even if I bring zero evidence.

This is obviously tongue in cheek, but I wouldn't be surprised these days to see allegations surface that one was raped/assaulted in a past life and demand recompense.

 

[Revoltingest]

Honestly...I don't think allegations arising after 25 years have a high level of credibility.
Whether they are against a leftist or a rightist.

Unfortunately people are terribly biased and partial and will only believe in those which affect the inimical party.

Certainly, time causes provability & disprovability to fade.
But one can't rule out the possibility that it can be adjudicated fairly.
The jury unanimously found the preponderance of evidence sufficient
to judge him liable for sexual assault & defamation.
Other cases look far weaker....

Kavanaugh Accuser Admits She Fabricated Allegations as a ‘Ploy’ for ‘Attention’

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley has referred Judy Munro-Leighton to the Justice Departement and FBI for investigation into potentially materially false statements and obstruction. “The Committee is grateful to citizens who come forward with relevant information in good faith, even if...

news.yahoo.com

Eight big problems for Christine Blasey Ford’s story

Christine Blasey Ford’s allegations against Brett Kavanaugh are serious. She is accusing him of violent attempted rape. “I thought he might inadvertently kill me. He was trying to attack me and rem…

nypost.com

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/politics/tara-reade-biden-allegation/index.html

 

[Exaltist Ethan]

Let's be honest here.

Biden and Trump can have any women they want. They aren't doing nothing wrong in that department. But Biden is a plagiarist and is going senile and Trump is a megalomaniac and failed businessman. Frankly neither are either qualified to be President. 35 is the age you have to be President, but if you are in retirement age, you also shouldn't be allowed to be President. I say cut them off at 70. Trump is 76 and Biden is 80. At this rate, I'd rather have Kamala Harris or Mike Pence for President. Both are distinguished politicians, and both are under 70. Similarly, I don't believe Bernie Sanders should be allowed to run, even if he is competent, because he's even older than Biden. There is such a thing as being too young to be President, and 35 is a good cutoff limit, but we need it to go both ways.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is obviously tongue in cheek, but I wouldn't be surprised these days to see allegations surface that one was raped/assaulted in a past life and demand recompense.

It's one thing to make an accusation.
But it's another to make a convincing story.
A convincing story & many details are needed
to convince a jury. Fabricating a claim of rape
years later is bound have some expected facts
wrong or omitted.

 

[Estro Felino]

Other cases look far weaker....

Unfortunately...in the US women are free to falsely accuse someone of rape, and after they are exposed, nothing will be done to them.
Poor American men.

 

[Estro Felino]

It's one thing to make an accusation.
But it's another to make a convincing story.
A convincing story & many details are needed
to convince a jury. Fabricating a claim of rape
years later is bound have some expected facts
wrong or omitted.

So justice is about winning a case.
It's not about the historical truth, is it?

 

[Revoltingest]

Unfortunately...in the US women are free to falsely accuse someone of rape, and after they are exposed, nothing will be done to them.
Poor American men.

This is indeed unfair.
But it has the advantage that it's easier for
the accuser to admit the false claim.
It points out the problem that it's too easy to
convict men of rape based upon the mere claim.
And prosecutors will pursue weak cases, even
committing fraud to convict innocent men, eg,
Mike Nifong vs the Duke Lacrosse players.

But this doesn't make Trump any less liable.
He publicly trumpeted his fondling women,
& his idea of them letting him do it because
he's a star differs from what the women thought.