Tariffs?

[F1fan]

No actually it's quite adult when it comes to talking about things that haven't happened yet as just that. Something that hasn't happened.

I think children oftentimes believe in things that are not actually happening, and act like that it has actually happened.

I would say you would be the one actually needing the burn salve here.

Children do believe in things that are happening and what aren’t happening. This is why avoiding bias and using reputable media is crucial for adults.

Let us know when you grow up.

 

[Viker]

And I look forward to the economic recovery brought about by a strong revitalized domestic manufacturing base.

You wouldn't benefit from it, even if it would succeed.

Anyways, I won't want to hear about the problems of higher prices coming from working class Trump voters this time next year. They'll have brought this on themselves. Cry me a river.

 

[SkepticThinker]

It's called risk assessment and impact planning. Something to modern day reactionary Democrats simply forget to do anymore.

My suggestion is to leave it to the professionals and Trump is a professional on these matters.

Judging from his Tweet (or whatever) he doesn't seem to know the first thing about "these matters."

 

[Father Heathen]

Some things are beyond my control and I am OK with that.

It's not your kids that will go hungry, right?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

You wouldn't benefit from it, even if it would succeed.

Anyways, I won't want to hear about the problems of higher prices coming from working class Trump voters this time next year.

I'm not a big trump fan or whatever, but buying goods that are produced in potentially slave-like or slave conditions does bother me. I read a few books on what working class life can be like out in other countries

 

[amorphous_constellation]

It's not your kids that will go hungry, right?

modern suburbia could grow giant gardens in their yard probably, instead of having acres of manicured lawns. And parking garages for their neighborhoods to make even more space for that

 

[Twilight Hue]

Children do believe in things that are happening and what aren’t happening. This is why avoiding bias and using reputable media is crucial for adults.

Let us know when you grow up.

Clearly you haven't grown up by the way you respond to people.

 

[F1fan]

Clearly you haven't grown up by the way you respond to people.

We need an irony button.

 

[Alien826]

I don't know whether it is intended to isolate the US and burn bridges with its allies or it is just a myopic, reflexively anti-globalist policy with the (highly foreseeable) byproduct of isolating the US even from its allies.

Either way, though, if these tariffs take effect—especially if they're also followed by tariffs on the US' European allies—I think the Trump administration will significantly chip away at the standing of the US among its allies as a reliable trade and geopolitical partner. Trump really seems to me a greater threat to the American economy than many outside actors could dream of being. He's proceeding recklessly toward undermining his own country's economy—as if his attempted insurrection against the result of his country's democratic election weren't bad enough.

I fear that much of the "chipping" has already been done. They've seen one Trump Presidency and noted it's effects, to some degree mitigated by people remaining in power that were able to prevent much of it. Now they see that these mitigating effects are likely to be largely done away with, they've had four years to scheme and plan after all.

I strongly suspect that our friends in the Western world have been quietly constructing contingency plans to address a world where they can't depend on the USA for much any more. From a long term global point of view, that may be a good thing. They have relied too much on what has proved to be a fickle friend too many times. More immediately this may strengthen our enemies to a point that may be irretrievable, and reach far beyond a few price raises.

 

[Viker]

I'm not a big trump fan or whatever, but buying goods that are produced in potentially slave-like or slave conditions does bother me. I read a few books on what working class life can be like out in other countries

True. The hardcore truth is that millions of us benefit greatly from this outsourcing of labor, not to mention that it's similar in country with cheaper migrant labor. Capitalism 101.

 

[Kathryn]

It's not your kids that will go hungry, right?

I don't know. My kids are grown and on their own.

 

[Alien826]

modern suburbia could grow giant gardens in their yard probably, instead of having acres of manicured lawns. And parking garages for their neighborhoods to make even more space for that

And only grow stuff that was "in season" for that area.

A long long time ago, in England, my parents owned a small fruit and vegetable store. With a few exceptions, what they had for sale was produce that was produced locally at the time of production, or could be stored over the winter period. For example, strawberries were available for only a few weeks in summer and were a great treat. We survived and didn't complain because nothing better was available.

Do you see modern Americans going back to that, and happily accepting it?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

A long long time ago, in England, my parents owned a small fruit and vegetable store. With a few exceptions, what they had for sale was produce that was produced locally at the time of production, or could be stored over the winter period. For example, strawberries were available for only a few weeks in summer and were a great treat. We survived and didn't complain because nothing better was available.

nice

Do you see modern Americans going back to that, and happily accepting it?

Well, I think there might be 2 things about people.. 1 is that they can be highly plastic to different environments, and the 2nd thing is, is that they maybe don't know how 'good' or 'bad' things could be, judging from where they are. With modern technology and knowledge, I think maybe we could go back to that, and it would be potentially better and easier.. do you think so?