Teacher threesome scandal

[columbus]

Dude, the kid was months away from the consensual age. Nothing is going to happen in those magical months before he turned 17. If it had happened a few months later, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

In matters of the law, yes I agree gender means nothing. Everyone deserves equal protection.

So who is the sexist?

The "kid" wasn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut afterwards. The criminals chose their meat puppet poorly and the results need to be jail time and a permanent restriction on access to children.
That is just what we have to do to protect other "kids".

Tom

 

[angellous_evangellous]

The "kid" wasn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut afterwards. The criminals chose their meat puppet poorly and the results need to be jail time and a permanent restriction on access to children.
That is just what we have to do to protect other "kids".

Tom

The beautiful thing is that the kid did nothing illegal, so it doesn't matter if he talks about it or not.

 

[Alceste]

I think the teachers should be sacked and prohibited from employment that puts them in a position of authority over minors, but jail seems a little harsh to me. And yes, I would feel exactly the same if the genders were reversed.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I think the teachers should be sacked and prohibited from employment that puts them in a position of authority over minors, but jail seems a little harsh to me. And yes, I would feel exactly the same if the genders were reversed.

I don't think that sex with a teenager a month or two away from being an 'adult' is the same thing - or even remotely related to - luring little kids into a sexual relationship. Obviously the law disagrees and I have no alternative suggestion other than to point out that someone who cannot consent to sex at 16yrs 11mo, 11hrs, and 59seconds suddenly has the ability to consent a second later. Or a month or two months or a year before. It's stupid and it ruins people's lives, even after they've done the prison time for it.

 

[Treks]

... meaning the two women could face up to 17¹/₂ years in prison for numerous charges including carnal knowledge of a juvenile, indecent behavior with a juvenile and contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile.

What does "contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile" mean?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What does "contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile" mean?

Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor

Any action by an adult that allows or encourages illegal behavior by a person under the age of 18, or that places children in situations that expose them to illegal behavior. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor can be as simple as keeping a child home from school and thus, making the child a truant. It also can manifest itself in more serious behavior. For example, an adult who commits a crime in the presence of a child can be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, as can an adult who serves alcoholic beverages to anyone under the legal drinking age. Still more egregious is sexual exploitation, which could include having sexual relations with minors or engaging in the production or trafficking of Child Pornography.
Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor legal definition of Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor

 

[columbus]

The beautiful thing is that the kid did nothing illegal, so it doesn't matter if he talks about it or not.

It matters a great deal to his teachers. They're going to jail and will be on a sex offender registry for the rest of their lives. That is not beautiful.

The power this gives children can be extremely destructive.

The moral to this story is irresponsible sex is destructive even if you don't think it should be.

Tom

 

[Majikthise]

You know, it's kinda funny.
I've always stopped to consider it(throughout my life) because of situations exactly like this.
I've noticed that , as I get older my views evolve.
In my 20s females on their 20s were attractive. In my 30s, women in their 30s caught my eye. And so it's gone. Now any woman that appears under 45 gives me no pause.
I work at a high school, i see girls in skimpy shorts playing volley ball in the gym all the time and sexual thoughts don't even occur to me.
Maybe it's because I have a daughter of 17.
Maybe it's because I really love my wife and she's still hot to me at 49 (she is hot).
But at some point you gotta realize sex isn't all there is and you have nothing in common with that person who no where near your maturity level.
At some point you gotta grow up.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

It matters a great deal to his teachers. They're going to jail and will be on a sex offender registry for the rest of their lives. That is not beautiful.

The power this gives children can be extremely destructive.

The moral to this story is irresponsible sex is destructive even if you don't think it should be.

Tom

Well, his teachers shouldn't have done it.:face palm:

The moral is silly here because it can change. The law is irresponsible, not the sex.

 

[samosasauce]

I think the news is reporting it more than usual, and also who knows how many of these reports are fake because few newspapers require articles to be fact checked at this point in time

 

[Majikthise]

I think the news is reporting it more than usual, and also who knows how many of these reports are fake because few newspapers require articles to be fact checked at this point in time

My problem with that is...

Who fact checks the fact checkers?
You're own sense of right and wrong is all any of us really has.

 

[Sunstone]

The kid will probably be more traumatized by seeing his teachers go off to jail than by the sex.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I feel that as liberalism pushes its boundaries more and more all institutions sacred to society will fall and in the end there will be nothing left but anarchy. It seems that this is the end goal of the liberal movement, except in a world of anarchy liberals would be eaten alive and religious fundamentalists and psychopaths would reign.

This has nothing to do with liberals or liberalism considering conservatives have been in the hot seat regarding sexual misconduct. Shucks.....the catholic church and other christians as well as leaders in the boy scouts have been in the news over the years. There's no shortage of liberals, conservatives etc. engaging is these kinds of behaviours...so it's not a partisan issue.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Tough to add anything with these great posts.
I work in a high school and have noticed over the years that some of the younger teachers dress just as inappropriately as the students do sometimes. Bad examples being set.

Same here. I work in public school and have seen this. Every Friday is jeans day and if it weren't for employee badges I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the teacher and the student.....

 

[Buttercup]

This has nothing to do with liberals or liberalism considering conservatives have been in the hot seat regarding sexual misconduct. Shucks.....the catholic church and other christians as well as leaders in the boy scouts have been in the news over the years. There's no shortage of liberals, conservatives etc. engaging is these kinds of behaviours...so it's not a partisan issue.

I was JUST going to post a comment very similar, strangely enough.

What do liberals and liberalism have to do with a teachers and threesomes with students? I'm very liberal, but find this behavior disgusting. Not because of the particular sexual aspect but because of the role a teacher should have in society, that is: an educator and moral role model.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Teachers grade you. If students and teachers start having sex, then different students can give teachers sexual favours and the teacher won't be grading on merit so much as how good students are at sexual favors. Grades set you up for college. This whole thing is hugely problematic as it pretty much destroys the notion that school is for learning, and becomes more like a sexual playground. Also if women can have sex with male students, then male teachers should be allowed to do the same as well. Also if these women were looking for sexual fun, they could have gone anywhere. They enjoyed this due to the position of power they held.

If liberalism desires to change every institution into a brothel, then there's no hope left lol.

For the most part I agree with you but your incessant need to make this a partisan issue is what I disagree with. This isn't about liberalism. Liberalism doesn't teach that it's okay in our society to have sex with minors....no more than it being the teachings of conservatism....YET we can find bad actors on these issues in BOTH camps...

 

[Sunstone]

To me, the main issue here is that, if teachers are allowed to sleep with students, then students might be pressured into sleeping with teachers for better grades or other benefits.

 

[Buttercup]

To me, the main issue here is that, if teachers are allowed to sleep with students, then students might be pressured into sleeping with teachers for better grades or other benefits.

I'd like to make sure I understand your statement, if you don't mind. Are you saying that other than the authoritarian discrepancy between student and teacher, you are fine with students having sex with their teachers?

 

[Sunstone]

I'd like to make sure I understand your statement, if you don't mind. Are you saying that other than the authoritarian discrepancy between student and teacher, you are fine with students having sex with their teachers?

It's the main issue to me. But I also think the kids are generally too young to be making decisions about whether or not to have sex. Of course, if it were up to me, no one would have sex before the age of reason, which for Americans, is about age 40.

 

[Alceste]

I don't think that sex with a teenager a month or two away from being an 'adult' is the same thing - or even remotely related to - luring little kids into a sexual relationship. Obviously the law disagrees and I have no alternative suggestion other than to point out that someone who cannot consent to sex at 16yrs 11mo, 11hrs, and 59seconds suddenly has the ability to consent a second later. Or a month or two months or a year before. It's stupid and it ruins people's lives, even after they've done the prison time for it.

It's nothing to do with the age of the student. People who can't keep their hands off students should not be permitted to teach. It's inappropriate and unprofessional, as well as an abuse of authority.