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Really interesting data.. thank you for sharing!
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teen pregnancy
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
This is interesting data, but be sure you don't missapply it. You could look at a group of, say, oilfield workers, and realize that they have a higher rate of lung cancer, and you could conclude (falsely) that working in the oilfield causes lung cancer - when in reality a higher percentage of oilfield workers SMOKES and that's what's causing their lung cancer.
You can't get a clear picture of teen pregnancy, or religious views and applications, without looking closely at other demographics.
Here are some more interesting demographics maps - these demographics also play a part in the complex issue of teen pregnancy:
Interesting website on African American demographics:
Booker Rising: A Portrait Of Black America On The Eve Of The 2010 Census
By the way, Washington DC has the highest percentage of black population - 56 percent. It also has the highest rate of teen pregnancy.
Abortion rates by state (CA and LA do not report abortion rates). I know that not all of these abortions are performed on teens, but many are.
You can't get a clear picture of teen pregnancy, or religious views and applications, without looking closely at other demographics.
Here are some more interesting demographics maps - these demographics also play a part in the complex issue of teen pregnancy:
Interesting website on African American demographics:
Booker Rising: A Portrait Of Black America On The Eve Of The 2010 Census
By the way, Washington DC has the highest percentage of black population - 56 percent. It also has the highest rate of teen pregnancy.
Abortion rates by state (CA and LA do not report abortion rates). I know that not all of these abortions are performed on teens, but many are.
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Autodidact
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It's like with Protestants they tell the teens not to have sex, so since they're not supposed to have sex, they don't use contraceptives, and then they go ahead and have sex and get pregnant. But with Mormons, they actually don't have sex. Or at least, fewer of them do.
Maybe you have to go the whole hog or not at all. Either acknowledge teen sexuality, teach about birth control, provide birth control, etc. (European model, very low teen pregnancy rates) Or really be sincere and thorough about your religion, and reduce the rate of teens actually having sex.
Maybe you have to go the whole hog or not at all. Either acknowledge teen sexuality, teach about birth control, provide birth control, etc. (European model, very low teen pregnancy rates) Or really be sincere and thorough about your religion, and reduce the rate of teens actually having sex.
Autodidact
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Kathryn: I don't see the correlation with Hispanics. It doesn't seem to correlate with anything. Am I missing something?
Autodidact
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Kathryn: There seems to be a high correlation between religiosity, especially Protestant, poverty, and teen pregnancy.
tomato1236
Ninja Master
Huh. Two more points for Utah. Little or no poverty and few abortions. Woo hoo!
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
NM, TX, AZ, FL all have higher than average Hispanic population rates as well as higher teen pregnancy rates.
I am not saying that this PROVES anything - in fact, my post makes it clear that we would be remiss to slap any one factor on the issue and say that's the cause.
I just thought that there was enough overlap to make things interesting. I also read a study on teen pregnancy recently that highlighted the teen pregancy rates of Hispanics - and it pointed out that teen MARRIAGE is a lot more common among Hispanics and that played a part in their teen pregnancy rate.
tomato1236
Ninja Master
Huh. Well I'm sure it's lower than elsewhere, but there are still plenty of high school kids doing each other here. They might just be more worried about getting caught? Not sure. I abstained because A) I was serious about my religion and B) I was scared of girls.
P.S. yes, I waited until I was married.
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
^^^^RACIST^^^^^This is interesting data, but be sure you don't missapply it. You could look at a group of, say, oilfield workers, and realize that they have a higher rate of lung cancer, and you could conclude (falsely) that working in the oilfield causes lung cancer - when in reality a higher percentage of oilfield workers SMOKES and that's what's causing their lung cancer.
You can't get a clear picture of teen pregnancy, or religious views and applications, without looking closely at other demographics.
Here are some more interesting demographics maps - these demographics also play a part in the complex issue of teen pregnancy:
Interesting website on African American demographics:
Booker Rising: A Portrait Of Black America On The Eve Of The 2010 Census
By the way, Washington DC has the highest percentage of black population - 56 percent. It also has the highest rate of teen pregnancy.
Abortion rates by state (CA and LA do not report abortion rates). I know that not all of these abortions are performed on teens, but many are.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It stands to reason that if your state has a higher minority percentage, the teen pregnancy rate is going to also be higher. This is not the case for CA, TN and KY, though.
Wow, Tennessee is pretty jacked up - not only does it have a higher than average teen pregnancy rate, it also has a higher than average abortion rate. Do Tennessians know how to do anything but have unprotected sex?
States with the lowest minority rates GENERALLY have a lower teen pregnancy rate, California excluded. And there are several predominately white states which also have a higher than average teen pregnancy rate - KY, WV and IN for example.
NY has the highest abortion rate and a very low teen birth rate.
My point is that we should look at as many different demographic stats as possible rather than try to throw a quick label on the issue.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
^^^^RACIST^^^^^
Err, no - objective and unafraid to face truths.
AKA politically incorrect.
tomato1236
Ninja Master
It stands to reason that if your state has a higher minority percentage, the teen pregnancy rate is going to also be higher. This is not the case for CA, TN and KY, though.
Wow, Tennessee is pretty jacked up - not only does it have a higher than average teen pregnancy rate, it also has a higher than average abortion rate. Do Tennessians know how to do anything but have unprotected sex?
States with the lowest minority rates GENERALLY have a lower teen pregnancy rate, California excluded. And there are several predominately white states which also have a higher than average teen pregnancy rate - KY, WV and IN for example.
NY has the highest abortion rate and a very low teen birth rate.
My point is that we should look at as many different demographic stats as possible rather than try to throw a quick label on the issue.
I think part of the problem is that men everywhere are looking at pictures of your giant cast online and have to find some expression for their sudden sexual urges.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
By jove, I think you're right.
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Doubtful, seems more like ignorance than objective truth telling to me.....
Where are you cracker charts?
no-body
Well-Known Member
Minorities tend to have a higher teen pregnancy rate because they come from a culture of machismo and they tend to be religious.
It's a pretty irrelevant thing to focus on, either-way. What we need to do is educate people, period. Throw this abstinence only hogwash out the window and make sure people are informed.
It's a pretty irrelevant thing to focus on, either-way. What we need to do is educate people, period. Throw this abstinence only hogwash out the window and make sure people are informed.
Smoke
Done here.
The Mormon version of Girls Gone Wild shows a bunch of girls drinking cola.
Having lived most of my life in the Bible Belt, I think the philosophy here is that the threat of teen pregnancy might be a deterrent to sexual activity. If you teach kids about contraception, they might not be as scared of sex. The fact that this doesn't work doesn't seem to faze anybody.
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Precisely, it's not race or culture it's the way we handle it. it's all wrong, we should be educating our youth properly. They are going to have sex, period. We all know what it's like and we have all been there. Not everyone will, but a vast majority will explore their sudden urges. We cannot stop this, what we can do is educate better.
We need to advocate birth control forms, and practice safe sex. it's blantanly obvious that abstinence is not working, neevr has and never will. Time to admit our faults and try a new course.
Smoke
Done here.
Also, for religious kids, carrying condoms around pretty much indicates that your "sin" is premeditated. It's much easier to pretend, or even convince yourself, that you just got carried away in the heat of the moment; at least you didn't plan to sin. I have a relative who claims she just had one beer, and it made her so drunk that she doesn't remember having sex at all.
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
So the study isn't counting teenagers who get pregnant and have an abortion?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
No, it's teen birth rates.