Teenage knife fights a time honored tradition?

[Revoltingest]

For a big tl;dr version, you forgot to discount children and teen from your count as well as adults passed the age of 34. You also forgot to take into account the number number of years passed in the ''danger zone'' compound... amongst other things.

Those kids eventually become adults.
I don't see how you can take that yearly death rate,
& have it amount to 1 in 1000 shooting deaths with
a population that size.

 

[epronovost]

Those kids eventually become adults.
I don't see how you can take that yearly death rate,
& have it amount to 1 in 1000 shooting deaths with
a population that size.

Because the risk of 1 in a 1000 is for black men ae 18 to 35 not all black people of masculine gender for once.

 

[Revoltingest]

Because the risk of 1 in a 1000 is for black men ae 18 to 35 not all black people of masculine gender for once.

That's not the claim of post #30.
Still, why do you think my calculation isn't cromulent?

 

[epronovost]

That's not the claim of post #30.
Still, why do you think my calculation isn't cromulent?

I already mentionned why your calculation isn't cromulent and provided you with the study from which the 1 in 1000 estimate is derived. You forgot to account for compounding risks and the actual number of people covered by the 1 in a 1000 sample. Post number 30 isn't a claim. It's a question. Someone ask if its true that 1 in 1000 black men will be killed by the police. The answer is yes, for black men age 18 to 35, but that's obviously not true if you consider the whole black masculine population.

 

[Revoltingest]

I already mentionned why your calculation isn't cromulent and provided you with the study from which the 1 in 1000 estimate is derived. You forgot to account for compounding risks and the actual number of people covered by the 1 in a 1000 sample. Post number 30 isn't a claim. It's a question. Someone ask if its true that 1 in 1000 black men will be killed by the police. The answer is yes, for black men age 18 to 35, but that's obviously not true if you consider the whole black masculine population.

Generally, it's better to provide one's one
analysis than to tell someone to read a link.
Quite often, the links don't measure up.
I haven't determined that yet though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It wasn't even a knife fight, either. It was a person with a knife attacking someone unarmed. A knife fight is where you both have knives and are going at each other.

 

[epronovost]

Generally, it's better to provide one's one
analysis than to tell someone to read a link.
Quite often, the links don't measure up.
I haven't determined that yet though.

I'm not a statistician. I don't know f you are, but without such a background and no access to data, "one's own analysis" is basically worth nothing.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm not a statistician. I don't know f you are, but without such a background and no access to data, "one's own analysis" is basically worth nothing.

I'm not.
But now I understand why the link instead of the analysis.
You don't really know.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Last I heard 1 in 1000 black men will be killed by a cop, is that possible?

It's about right. The chance to go to jail or prison is one in 5 apparently. For being shot by someone, no specific, it's about one in 250.

Even if those stats are true, it doesn't mean it's caused by racism. The case with the 16 year old with the knife doesn't involve racism, either.