Teenages Steal Car Kill Baby Then Charged With Misdemeanor

[Jimmy]

It was just a late term abortion!

How could you post this? Wow

 

[Quagmire]

Interesting question, but this was in Chicago

Sadly, that probably does answer the question.

I have family in Chicago and from what I'm hearing from them apparently there's no such thing as law enforcement there anymore.

At best, it's half-hearted law encouragement.

 

[Ella S.]

KISS
There are a lot of far left liberals on this site

That's an oxymoron. Liberals are not leftists. Liberalism promotes capitalism, making it right-wing.

American liberalism promotes regulated capitalism and a strong central government, also making it authoritarian. So liberals tend to be AuthRight. Classical liberals, who stole the word "libertarian" from actual libertarians in America, are "LibRight" because they tend to support unregulated laissez-faire capitalism.

Either way, they're right-wing, as far as I know. There's no such thing as a "far left" liberal. "Liberal" and "leftist" are antonyms.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's not humor.

Ironically, that makes your post funny.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's disgusting they handcuff little children now.

The mentality of the people who approved this and those who do this is beyond words and comprehension as a human being.

Careful, you might get labeled a "libtard" if people hear you denigrating law enforcement.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Careful, you might get labeled a "libtard" if people hear you denigrating law enforcement.

I'm not against all 'libbyism' on principle, just against how they go about it.

Careful though, this disgusting practice happens in libbyland too.

 

[Father Heathen]

That's an oxymoron. Liberals are not leftists. Liberalism promotes capitalism, making it right-wing.

American liberalism promotes regulated capitalism and a strong central government, also making it authoritarian. So liberals tend to be AuthRight. Classical liberals, who stole the word "libertarian" from actual libertarians in America, are "LibRight" because they tend to support unregulated laissez-faire capitalism.

Either way, they're right-wing, as far as I know. There's no such thing as a "far left" liberal. "Liberal" and "leftist" are antonyms.

"willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; openness to new ideas.
the holding of political views that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
"the borough prides itself on being a great bastion of liberalism and diversity"
the belief that many traditional beliefs are dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."

Almost none of those could be considered conservative or rightwing values.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We read "killed a baby", but does that imply pre-judgment of
intent? It could be stated as "a baby died in a traffic accident".
The crime was stealing the car. So this death occurred after
that, ie, it wasn't a death during commission of a crime.
Still, wouldn't car theft be a felony?

It sometimes gets complicated. I suspect the question of who's car was stolen is necessary to answer. If it's family, it may not have been initially considered stolen.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What more do I want? The reason why they went with criminal trespass charges instead of auto theft.

My best friend stole a car once. Except she didn't she was with a friend who it turns out had murky and unclear permission regarding permission to have the car.
I don't know, but a charge didn't immediately come it seems to me there's something similar going on. Or permission was had except there are other criminal elements involved (like drugs or a gun found) that has thrown a rock into the gears of a smoother process.

 

[Ella S.]

"willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; openness to new ideas.
the holding of political views that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
"the borough prides itself on being a great bastion of liberalism and diversity"
the belief that many traditional beliefs are dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."

Almost none of those could be considered conservative or rightwing values.

I didn't say liberals were conservatives. I said they were economically right-wing, because they're capitalists.

"Conservative" is not really a particular ideology, but a mentality. Conservatives in different places often have radically different political values. Likewise, "progressive" is more of a relative, cultural distinction that doesn't actually tell you the specifics of what an ideology believes in.

Yes, liberals in America are progressive rather than conservative, but that's irrelevant. You even mention that liberalism promotes free enterprise here, which comes from the fact that they are economically right-wing.

They do tend to call themselves "socialists," but what they really advocate for is more government control over the economy, which is not socialism. That isn't to say that state socialism doesn't exist, but it's not what liberals push for; they push for regulated capitalism so they aren't economically left.

This is an example of how liberals tend to co-opt a lot of leftist terminology to misuse it as a way of presenting themselves as leftist when they aren't.

 

[Revoltingest]

Some were even stunned. Yea. Stunned.

A lot of outrage. No changes to police policy on how to handle little kids.

Tiny wrists in cuffs: How police use force against children

CHICAGO (AP) — Royal Smart remembers every detail: the feeling of the handcuffs on his wrists. The panic as he was led outside into the cold March darkness, arms raised, to face a wall of police officers pointing their guns.

apnews.com

Outrage Over Handcuffed Children Leads States To Consider Raising Minimum Age of Arrest

A 6-year-old boy charged with a crime for picking a tulip. An 8-year-old whose wrists were too small for a pair of handcuffs. A 9-year-old girl handcuffed

reason.com

7-year-old boy with autism handcuffed, held on floor by school resource officer

A lawsuit by the boy's mother accuses the officer of an "unreasonable use of force" and inflicting "unnecessary and wanton pain" on the child.

www.nbcnews.com

It goes on and on and on....

The wrong people hired for the wrong job with
the wrong training & the wrong work culture.
What could go wrong, eh.

 

[Colt]

How could you post this? Wow

Millions of children are killed each year in late term abortions. Pro abortionists pretend they aren’t really children. If a pregnant women is killed by a drunk driver then the drunk is charged with (2) vehicular homicides. This tragedy is considered differently due to months of age.

 

[Jimmy]

Millions of children are killed each year in late term abortions. Pro abortionists pretend they aren’t really children. If a pregnant women is killed by a drunk driver then the drunk is charged with (2) vehicular homicides. This tragedy is considered differently due to months of age.

Still a sick comment

 

[Father Heathen]

I didn't say liberals were conservatives. I said they were economically right-wing, because they're capitalists.

"Conservative" is not really a particular ideology, but a mentality. Conservatives in different places often have radically different political values. Likewise, "progressive" is more of a relative, cultural distinction that doesn't actually tell you the specifics of what an ideology believes in.

Yes, liberals in America are progressive rather than conservative, but that's irrelevant. You even mention that liberalism promotes free enterprise here, which comes from the fact that they are economically right-wing.

They do tend to call themselves "socialists," but what they really advocate for is more government control over the economy, which is not socialism. That isn't to say that state socialism doesn't exist, but it's not what liberals push for; they push for regulated capitalism so they aren't economically left.

This is an example of how liberals tend to co-opt a lot of leftist terminology to misuse it as a way of presenting themselves as leftist when they aren't.

Isn't it a spectrum/gradient? The more business regulations and restrictions, social programs, etc. the more left? Less, the more right? Suggesting that the far left is the only left seems a bit silly.
I'm staunchly for equality, rights, liberty, and justice for women, LGBT, racial and religious minorities, etc. I support bodily autonomy and reproductive choice. I would prefer universal healthcare vs. the predatory racket that is privatized, for profit healthcare. I'm for legalizing, regulating, and taxing cannabis and other victimless crimes. I value and trust science and acknowledge the importance and severity of environmental and ecological concerns. I support regulation that protects workers, consumers, the environment, etc. I support higher taxes for the wealthy, etc.
But because I'm not essentially a Che Guevara cosplayer, I'm rightwing? That would make it such a large umbrella that it's a totally useless descriptor.

 

[Ella S.]

Isn't it a spectrum/gradient? The more business regulations and restrictions, social programs, etc. the more left? Less, the more right? Suggesting that the far left is the only left seems a bit silly.

Leftism is only considered "far left" in places like the US because their Overton Window is shifted so far to the right. That doesn't magically make right-wingers that are slightly more left than the other right-wingers leftists.

I'm staunchly for equality, rights, liberty, and justice for women, LGBT, racial and religious minorities, etc. I support bodily autonomy and reproductive choice. I would prefer universal healthcare vs. the predatory racket that is privatized, for profit healthcare. I'm for legalizing, regulating, and taxing cannabis and other victimless crimes. I value and trust science and acknowledge the importance and severity of environmental and ecological concerns. I support regulation that protects workers, consumers, the environment, etc. I support higher taxes for the wealthy, etc.
But because I'm not essentially a Che Guevara cosplayer, I'm rightwing? That would make it such a large umbrella that it's a totally useless descriptor.

I didn't make up the terminology. You're complaining to the wrong person.

Bernie Sanders was a leftist and he was pretty far from a Che Guevara cosplayer. That said, expanding the definition of leftism to include liberalism would make leftism a totally useless descriptor. That's what we call "entryism," which is dishonest.

If you're against actual leftism, then why do you want to fight so staunchly to describe yourself as a leftist? You're not. We're not allies. You support an abusive, majoritarian government and an economic system built off of wage slavery and nepotistic wealth inequality. Is the fact that you're not a complete bigot supposed to make me champion you as a beacon of progress and social welfare? It doesn't.

To me, liberalism is barely any better than what the Republican party advocates. They're both morally bankrupt ideologies where tyranny is the system working as intended.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Millions of children are killed each year in late term abortions. Pro abortionists pretend they aren’t really children. If a pregnant women is killed by a drunk driver then the drunk is charged with (2) vehicular homicides. This tragedy is considered differently due to months of age.

Congratulations! I wouldn't even go there and I aim at just about everything. Make fun of the kids who did it, ridicule their reasons amd the whys, lampoon their thought process. Scoff at the prosecutor if the misdemeanor is it. But poking directly at the dead of a tragedy isn't cool.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Leftism is only considered "far left" in places like the US because their Overton Window is shifted so far to the right. That doesn't magically make right-wingers that are slightly more left than the other right-wingers leftists.

I didn't make up the terminology. You're complaining to the wrong person.

Bernie Sanders was a leftist and he was pretty far from a Che Guevara cosplayer. That said, expanding the definition of leftism to include liberalism would make leftism a totally useless descriptor. That's what we call "entryism," which is dishonest.

If you're against actual leftism, then why do you want to fight so staunchly to describe yourself as a leftist? You're not. We're not allies. You support an abusive, majoritarian government and an economic system built off of wage slavery and nepotistic wealth inequality. Is the fact that you're not a complete bigot supposed to make me champion you as a beacon of progress and social welfare? It doesn't.

To me, liberalism is barely any better than what the Republican party advocates. They're both morally bankrupt ideologies where tyranny is the system working as intended.

I think it has more to do with singling out Leftists who need beat with a hammer over everything that is wrong about glorifying and commodifying Che. He ideas were radical, his approved means heinously extreme, amd he'd hate people for selling and buying posters and shirts of him.
I don't like being associated with that either.

 

[We Never Know]

We read "killed a baby", but does that imply pre-judgment of
intent? It could be stated as "a baby died in a traffic accident".
The crime was stealing the car. So this death occurred after
that, ie, it wasn't a death during commission of a crime.
Still, wouldn't car theft be a felony?

"it wasn't a death during commission of a crime"

Sure it was. Being in possession of a stolen car is a crime("with knowledge of the fact that it was stolen–is punishable by 18 U.S.C. §§ 2312-2313)"

The National Motor Vehicle Theft Act (“NMVT”)

Criminal Possession of Stolen Property: 18 U.S.C. Chapter 113

www.theblanchlawfirm.com

 

[Revoltingest]

"it wasn't a death during commission of a crime"

Sure it was. Being in possession of a stolen car is a crime("with knowledge of the fact that it was stolen–is punishable by 18 U.S.C. §§ 2312-2313)"

The National Motor Vehicle Theft Act (“NMVT”)

Criminal Possession of Stolen Property: 18 U.S.C. Chapter 113

www.theblanchlawfirm.com

I see it differently.
Causing a death of a child during the theft
is different from killing the child while merely
in possession of the car. I speculate that the
prosecutor saw it that way.

 

[Father Heathen]

Leftism is only considered "far left" in places like the US because their Overton Window is shifted so far to the right. That doesn't magically make right-wingers that are slightly more left than the other right-wingers leftists.

I didn't make up the terminology. You're complaining to the wrong person.

Bernie Sanders was a leftist and he was pretty far from a Che Guevara cosplayer. That said, expanding the definition of leftism to include liberalism would make leftism a totally useless descriptor. That's what we call "entryism," which is dishonest.

If you're against actual leftism, then why do you want to fight so staunchly to describe yourself as a leftist? You're not. We're not allies. You support an abusive, majoritarian government and an economic system built off of wage slavery and nepotistic wealth inequality. Is the fact that you're not a complete bigot supposed to make me champion you as a beacon of progress and social welfare? It doesn't.

To me, liberalism is barely any better than what the Republican party advocates. They're both morally bankrupt ideologies where tyranny is the system working as intended.

Fair enough. I wasn't worried about having anyone's acceptance or allegiance, and I'll continue to stick with the two axis political spectrum regardless.
I'm just saying that you won't have much luck with your 'swap 'n adopt' campaign regarding terminology.