Sammeleh
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Interesting post, which is why it is helpful to speak to another about his viewpoint rather than assume what he believes.
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Terrified of becoming an atheist again
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Shad
Veteran Member
Yes, and more so many need such a belief. As per what you have written about your own experience I rather see you believing in something that help prevent acts you have committed and those that you believe you could commit in the future than not.
You want absolution and acknowledgement not accountability.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I don't look on my atheism as a positive or negative aspect of my life. Although I could argue that I can see only negatives with most, if not all, religions.
I am not an atheist because I expect to gain through being one. I don't understand the logic your statement, "If there was none then of course one got into it just for superstition?" Atheism isn't a superstition, it is a rejection of superstition.
I have rejected the idea of god(s) because I can find no evidence that they exist and because they would add nothing to my life if I believed in them on 'faith'.
I do not worship atheism every Sunday, I go fishing, walk the dog, go for a meal and a beer, meet with my grandchildren.
Life is good without god.
I have already answered that, i am not in the habit repeating myself.
What has Krishna got to do with it? Krishna is one of about 30 million Hindu gods
Nor did he write and religious book, your point is what?
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
You know the thing about atheists is that they only get to the tops of trees.
Very true statement.
They will say that the evolution snake is it or even if you have a bird symbol, and angel or whatever doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me if I had to I could squash both.
It's a lot like what happens with north and south Korea, they specifically used that to preach design. For example valley of the flying rocks, if they said the that the evolutionary atheist is to preach mix and the other be confounded that their father didn't leave them but they are gay is another point of wanna be design. If they say their mother didn't leave them but they are gay is another point of design. Now I know you might be all flagged with gay whatever word but that isn't true. It's atheistic social brainwash. While the other might be like Christmas or Easter a holiday. If they have families that stuck together even what did they possibly over look for 40 years? I seen them get together and try to help them honestly but the sometimes the damage very negative.
Something like this even happened in Catholicism. Other identifiable religions too and the body of it.. Then sometimes corporation last. A lot of people thought that was first. I usually see it afterward however a they try to run it back.
That's why they have a sort of rift in communism but they will still nab at other cultures.
That's why they have a rift in capital because they have a rift in culture attacks and tax based.
Socialism is the same because it is based on forming these guides and social education and then caste.
They will practice it like a paul and peter bash and then look to the older ancestors.
2 sisters and 2 brothers that practice it on family.
Even if someone comes down and has a Judaism partial the damage is there and that they might in force pan again.
I could pull out scriptures of all texts that show it both back yard judaism and front yard catholic texts (dogs then of the side of the house) (my favorite lol) There's your socialism and "communism" and capital all in a nut shell. Even if you switched it around you get the point. I really laugh about this one when I think about Minnesota .
The hard one is the city it's where they pile up corporations and then the outer which I don't actually think that way.
Then you got necromancers and culture peters smacking each other.
Just love?
peter gets hammered into a spinning wheel?
Did peter walk across water? Before he said atheist?
Did he say it before hand?
Why serve or ask to get fish before he is risen? I wouldn't lead someone to practice necromancy.
If though even someone appears to be it's not.
I brush it off.
Why use the box to practice Qumran?
The point is I'm not brainwashed by it and many people don't actually believe it in their hearts either.
But socially people want some thing like it.
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Pudding
Well-Known Member
I'm an atheist because i don't have the belief that at least one god exists.
I don't have the belief that at least one god exists because i haven't convinced to believe so.
(1) Please explain what do you mean by 'positive proof'.
(2) Please elaborate what position and non-position you're talking about.
Please answer my above questions first otherwise your question is too vague.
Please note, while i don't have the belief that at least one god exists, i also don't have the belief that any god doesn't exist except the flying spaghetti monster which i can think of for now.
Ricktheheretic
"Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law"
There is obviously something inside you that wants to do good, or else you wouldn't care at all about what you do. Hold on to that. There have been several philosophers with moral views who didn't come from theistic viewpoints: Aristotle, Epicurus, Gautam Buddha, Confucius, Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, Voltaire, David Hume, Jeremy Bentham, John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Arthur Schopenhauer, Soren Kierkegard, Friedrich Nietzsche, Jean Paul Sartre, Simone De Beauvoir, Martin Heidegger, Albert Camus, Michel Foucault, Ayn Rand, Carol Gilligan, Nel Noddings, and modern Secular Humanists. Obviously there is a rewarding side to having good will towards fellow men, or else all world religions wouldn't say "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." One man said, "If god did not exist it would be necessary to invent him." Maybe that's the latent theist speaking out in Voltaire, or maybe he's just saying that god has an important role in making people moral. If we all thought that one day we would be held accountable for our actions maybe we would be better people. But that's not what morality is about. Morality is about what is within us and doesn't have to have anything to do with god. Unitarian Universalist Association This groups believes that "spirituality" doesn't have to be theistic, but can come from appreciation of the human mind or spirit that we all share and is interrelated with the rest of the cosmos.
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MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
Try Christianity, it won't kill you and it very well may save you unlike atheism. I used to be a very very bad guy without much of a conscious, but that changed to being more and more depressed and angry. I started noticing all the happy Christians* even though I thought they were high or bogus I decided to visit some Christian's I knew as causal friends. They helped me learn about the religion and slowly I found out what living was all about. I thought they should charge a fee for that stuff! The most important thing to remember is Christians are all different. If you try church find one that the membership looks and acts like you and your friends etc. I was a very hard core 1%er biker a club member so I found and visited a biker church. It doesn't matter what the members or preacher looks like as long as the preaching comes from the bible. If it doesn't its a cult, not a church or Christianity.
note * Before I tried Christianity I either read about or actually tried other religions. Bottom line us I had to choose the one I felt most comfortable with.
peace ~ ; { >
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MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
As usual that was great post Jonathan, especially the bit where you said don't do good because of fear of God. Of course that includes fear of the so called 'Hell'. I do however have a somewhat selfish motive for doing good things such as helping others etc. I do it because I feel good, actually I experience real joy from helping others. When I look back on my life the times I had fun from enjoying my motorcycle or the outdoor activities was great, but helping others was what brought me true joy. Play it forward eh? I had one issue with what you said which was loving even the most vile thing about yourself? I do ask to be forgiven for those things did I misread your words?
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Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
So knowledge is evil to god then?