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Terrified of becoming an atheist again

ADigitalArtist

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Buddhism is not a religion but a way of life. Hinduism has belief in about 30 million gods, therefore not atheist. Satanist worship the god satan, you may not consider satan a god but satanist do. Yu-huang is the great High God of the Taoists, there are several other god of the faith. There are are course groups of individual's who gather to discuss their atheism, some even sarcastically call these gathering places temples or chuches.
You seem to think that there is just one version of each religion and that is just simply not the case. Some Buddhists are atheistic but religious, with a ritual belief about the universe and afterlife, especially Buddhism which fused with other beliefs such as Zen Buddhism and Shinto Buddhism (which is not only religious but theistic.)
Similarly there are Hindu who don't believe the pantheon are literal beings but qualities of humanity and the natural world. We have a Hindu atheist here on RF even.
LaVey Satanism does not believe Satan is a real being but an icon representing their belief. They call themselves atheist.
Same thing with Taoist. Jade Emporor belief is only present with Chinese traditional religion, and not all Taoists.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
My definition for 'atheist' is that:
A person who don't have the belief that at least one monotheistic god exists, and also don't have the belief that at least one non-monotheistic god exists.
Is one's stance just out of superstition or on the basis of a positive reason on the position/non-position of Atheism?
Regards
 

paarsurrey

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It may be time to step out from all religious movements and to spend time in simple meditation, which will calm the mind. When doing simple tasks be at one with what it is your doing and keep your focus on your doing; sounds like mindfulness, and the good thing about this doing meditation it calms the mind(with practise !).

Finally, when I asked what is my religion I tell them it is 'to live from the heart'. When I fail, I go over why I failed and try to not make thhat mistake again.
Is one's belief in meditation on the basis of Revelation from God or on the basis of science? Please
Regards
 

wicketkeeper

Living From the Heart.
Is one's belief in meditation on the basis of Revelation from God or on the basis of science? Please
Regards

I don't have a belief in God etc. I am an experienced meditator, it was through Buddhism I came to know meditation. I would recommend Direct Knowledge over belief - because in the middle of the word belief there is a lie.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You seem to think that there is just one version of each religion and that is just simply not the case. Some Buddhists are atheistic but religious, with a ritual belief about the universe and afterlife, especially Buddhism which fused with other beliefs such as Zen Buddhism and Shinto Buddhism (which is not only religious but theistic.)
Similarly there are Hindu who don't believe the pantheon are literal beings but qualities of humanity and the natural world. We have a Hindu atheist here on RF even.
LaVey Satanism does not believe Satan is a real being but an icon representing their belief. They call themselves atheist.
Same thing with Taoist. Jade Emporor belief is only present with Chinese traditional religion, and not all Taoists.


Buddhism is a way of life, not a religion, that some people choose a to hold faith is nothing to do with Buddhism or Hinduism

Yet LaVey Satanists worship their deity, they can call themselves whatever they want

I dont believe that is so
 
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ChristineM

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Did Buddha or Buddhism people say that it is not a religion? Please
Regards

When asked what he was teaching, Buddha said he teaches "the way things are." He said nobody should believe his teachings out of faith, but instead they should examine for themselves to see if they are true or not."
 

Saint Frankenstein

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Even if Buddha had not liked to bow before a statue or an idol or worship one?
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There are many Buddhist statues around the world people bow down to and pray to. This is common in Mahayana Buddhism. They have what could be termed deities and such.

Oh, and Buddhism is a religion. I'm tired of people saying it isn't.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Buddhism is a way of life, not a religion, that some people choose a to hold faith is nothing to do with Buddhism or Hinduism

Yet LaVey Satanists worship their deity, they can call themselves whatever they want

I Sony believe that is so
Some Buddhists have a deity. Some Hindu do not. LaVey Satanists do not have any deity they worship. You can say what you believe, but you can't speak for them. They speak for themselves.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Some Buddhists have a deity. Some Hindu do not. LaVey Satanists do not have any deity they worship. You can say what you believe, but you can't speak for them. They speak for themselves.

By Buddha's teaching having a deity does not make them Buddhist, faith is nothing to do with with Buddhism. People may be be both Buddhist and have faith in a deity but the two are not related.

By the same token, Hinduism recognises around 30 million gods, Hindus don't need to revere them all, but the gods are a part of Hinduism.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I agree.
It's like when some Christians say 'its not a religion it's a relationship' as if those two things were mutually exclusive.
Something can be a philosophy, a way of life and a religion all at once.

Nor is Buddhism a philosophy
 

Pudding

Well-Known Member
Is one's stance just out of superstition or on the basis of a positive reason on the position/non-position of Atheism?
Regards
I don't know what do you mean by 'positive reason'.
I cannot understand why you would connect superstition with atheist lack of belief that at least one god exists.

I don't have the belief that at least one god exists because i haven't convinced to believe so. For other atheists you have to ask them yourself.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I don't have a belief in God etc. I am an experienced meditator, it was through Buddhism I came to know meditation. I would recommend Direct Knowledge over belief - because in the middle of the word belief there is a lie.
So, it was not from science. Right? Please
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Buddhism is a way of life, not a religion, that some people choose a to hold faith is nothing to do with Buddhism or Hinduism

Yet LaVey Satanists worship their deity, they can call themselves whatever they want

I dont believe that is so
Did both Buddha and Krishna say that theirs was not a religion?Please
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
When asked what he was teaching, Buddha said he teaches "the way things are." He said nobody should believe his teachings out of faith, but instead they should examine for themselves to see if they are true or not."
That is exactly what Revelation is , of course Buddha did not write any science book and made no experiments in physics, chemistry etc.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
There are many Buddhist statues around the world people bow down to and pray to. This is common in Mahayana Buddhism. They have what could be termed deities and such.

Oh, and Buddhism is a religion. I'm tired of people saying it isn't.
Humans do forget, so one needs remind them that they must correct themselves in this connection.
Thanks and regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I don't know what do you mean by 'positive reason'.
I cannot understand why you would connect superstition with atheist lack of belief that at least one god exists.

I don't have the belief that at least one god exists because i haven't convinced to believe so. For other atheists you have to ask them yourself.
How was one got convinced with Atheism in the first place? Did one find any positive proof of the Atheism position/non-position whatever? If there was none then of course one got into it just for superstition?
Regards
 
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