I'm referring to them continuing to have an excuse to carry on their "war on terror", which is causing the refugee crisis in the first place.
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Terror attack in Nice [confirmed] - Lorry rammed into crowd - at least 30 dead
- Thread starter Flankerl
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I'm referring to them continuing to have an excuse to carry on their "war on terror", which is causing the refugee crisis in the first place.
I very doubt about this, I follow news I did heard that at all.
His brother live in Tunisia deny that his brother sent that big money
its Tunisian Arabic language article
http://www.tunigazette.com/99894/bouhlel-money/
They feel they are just humans not upper (racist)
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
You sure?
The Independent and The Telegraph are usually quite reliable in my opinion, though the Daily Mail isn't.
Still, there are plenty of other news sources which state the large money claim.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Yeah because France was always really big on the War on Terror, oh wait it wasn't apart from keeping Al-Qaeda conquering Mali (which I guess would be totally fine), securing the sea against piracy and the war in Afghanistan which seriously was not a bad thing if the US hadn't gone off to play war in Iraq.
That is far less engagement than for example by the US Aircraft Carrier in the North Sea.
If you actually want to grouse about France then do so about their (and various other NATO and/or European countries) idiocy in Libya. That is something to grouse about.
No clue what you are trying to say with that.
I'm not so sure that the Afghanistan War was that great of an idea, either. But France is also involved in the current debacle in Syria and working with "rebel" groups, too. They've been bombing Syria again. So, yes - they certainly have their share of the blame and this attack is being used as an excuse for more bombings.
In this case:
I advise you to check/trust always the oringnal source (Tunisian/French) ,to this moment I am sure.
This is last update from France according to France’s Minister of the Interior :
http://www.france24.com/en/20160718-nice-attackers-road-terror-Mohamed-Lahouaiej-Bouhlel
“This is a new type of attack,” Cazeneuve said on Sunday. “We are now confronted with individuals that are sensitive to the message of ISIS (Islamic State group) and are committed to extremely violent actions without necessarily being trained by them.”
Watch the first video ,that was yesterday.
Yes he was just a loser in his persnol life, I wished that he just died alone , without killing many innocents.
for my nationality ,5 Algerians killed by that monster.
I wish the authorities had gotten it together and made him get help. He should've been committed or something.
More carnage in France.....
http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/19/mothe...ch-resort-for-being-scantily-dressed-6016072/
It strikes me as heinous fanaticism that people move to a new country,
& expect the country to conform to the backwards oppressive & abusive
ways of their old country. I say....if you don't like it, don't move there.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/19/mothe...ch-resort-for-being-scantily-dressed-6016072/
It strikes me as heinous fanaticism that people move to a new country,
& expect the country to conform to the backwards oppressive & abusive
ways of their old country. I say....if you don't like it, don't move there.
In the news, others are arrested......
https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-truck-attack-planned-months-accomplices-013531357.html?ref=gs
https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-truck-attack-planned-months-accomplices-013531357.html?ref=gs
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Yes .. I notice that it isn't claimed that any of them have links with IS
It seems that they were a bunch of criminals, involved with firearms and robbery..
It's not clear whether his "accomplices" knew of his intentions ..they might of done, and I suppose that satan could have made it seem smart ... any knowledgable, practising Muslim would view such deeds as the path to hell
I do notice that not all Muslims agree on what sends one to Hell or Heaven.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
No .. it might depend on whether they are ignorant criminals!
Or subscribe to a different version of Islam.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
What version would that be then, that conspires to kill inocent civilians, women & children?
No .. terrorist actions from practising Muslims can be seen as "war crimes" .. and don't tell me that only Muslims commit these..
Most of the attrociies that I've observed over the last few years are largely from a criminal fraternity, that have not studied Islam .. and often not even praying .. politics & ethnicity, not religion is responsible
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You might want to try telling them that. I'm pretty confident saying they probably see themselves as being "good" Muslims, fighting for Allah.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
Replace "muslims" with "fanatics" and you've pretty much got it covered globally.