Texas Law Banning Abortion After About Six Weeks Takes Effect

[Twilight Hue]

Yep. And when that's done, the US will split. The dems get the east and the west, the reps get the south (with plenty of space since the blacks, Mexicans and women left), the Mormons get Utah and the north gets annexed by Cannukistan.

Shattered Union prophecy. * ;0]

.....Just wondering when the UN will step in to save America.

* Seriously this game, particularly the trailer, is eerily uncanny, if not outright unsettling as an oracle for the future. It's like the developers knew.....

 

[Heyo]

There are going to be a lot of politicians wives

and mistresses

on those reports.

Though most of those would fly of to get their usual weekend break abortion. in a more accommodating city. No questions asked.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Shattered Union prophecy. * ;0]

.....Just wondering when the UN will step in to save America.

* Seriously this game, particularly the trailer, is eerily uncanny, if not outright unsettling as an oracle for the future. It's like the developers knew.....

Why would it even want to. Providing it was not being too much of a nuisance to Canada or Mexico.

America needs to self destruct. and reform out of the ashes.
Perhaps with the advice and leadership of China to lend a hand.
After all they will probably own the place by then.

 

[Stevicus]

That's freedom?

"Love it or leave it" is a classic, time-honored argument in the American political culture. It can be used in almost any situation.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

"Love it or leave it" is a classic, time-honored argument in the American political culture. It can be used in almost any situation.

Indeed it can.
The Australian equivalent of this is something like a shrug. I'll demonstrate.

'Hey Richo, the government just passed a law restricting the freedom of women to make decisions about their own bodies.'

*shrug*

'Hey Richo, the government just passed a law restricting the freedom of people throughout the country to freely assemble and protest.'

*shrug*

'Hey Richo, the government just raised taxes on booze and cigarettes.'

'Bloody wankers...'

'What should we do about it?'

*shrug*

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No abortions, no masks, no vaccine. But a new law allows anyone to carry a gun without a permit. Sounds like the wild west is back.

It would be interesting to see a challenge of the new anti-abortion law under Texas's "stand your ground" or "castle doctrine" laws.

I ordered the fetus to leave and it refused to comply, so I was justified in using force against it.

 

[pearl]

I think that ultimately the right to abortion will be turned over to the individual states.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think that ultimately the right to abortion will be turned over to the individual states.

That would be the best outcome.

 

[Father Heathen]

That would be the best outcome.

What if some states wanted to reinstate slavery?

 

[Revoltingest]

What if some states wanted to reinstate slavery?

The right to abortion isn't specifically granted in the Constitution.
The prohibition against involuntary servitude is precisely stated
in the 13th Amendment. So there's a huge difference in legal
basis.
Note though that the military draft is unquestionably involuntary
servitude, yet all branches of government ignore the 13th, &
justify conscripting healthy young males.

 

[Father Heathen]

The right to abortion isn't specifically granted in the Constitution.

Bodily autonomy should be.

 

[Secret Chief]

No abortions, no masks, no vaccine. But a new law allows anyone to carry a gun without a permit. Sounds like the wild west is back.

You can't stop progress.

 

[Revoltingest]

Bodily autonomy should be.

I agree.

 

[pearl]

The four dissenters — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan — argued in separate rebuttals that their five colleagues, without any real debate, were rewarding Texas lawmakers for inventing a novel scheme to stomp on decades of Supreme Court precedent.

"The statutory scheme before the Court is not only unusual, but unprecedented," Roberts wrote, and he would have granted "preliminary relief" at least until "the courts may consider whether a state can avoid responsibility for its laws in such a manner." Instead, the court allowed the law to take effect before lower courts weighed in, "without ordinary merits briefing, and without oral argument."
Chief Justice Roberts, 3 other dissenters slam colleagues for hastily rewarding Texas 'bounty hunter' abortion ban scheme (msn.com)

 

[Stevicus]

The right to abortion isn't specifically granted in the Constitution.
The prohibition against involuntary servitude is precisely stated
in the 13th Amendment. So there's a huge difference in legal
basis.
Note though that the military draft is unquestionably involuntary
servitude, yet all branches of government ignore the 13th, &
justify conscripting healthy young males.

The 13th Amendment contains one notable exception:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

So, all they have to do is find some bogus thing to charge people ("drug possession" seems to be the go to choice, since the evidence can be easily planted), then send them to privatized prison where their labor can be rented out at a profit to the prison owners.

 

[Revoltingest]

The 13th Amendment contains one notable exception:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

So, all they have to do is find some bogus thing to charge people ("drug possession" seems to be the go to choice, since the evidence can be easily planted), then send them to privatized prison where their labor can be rented out at a profit to the prison owners.

You sure don't like privatization. However, the state is
even more capable of extracting labor from the unwilling.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The 13th Amendment contains one notable exception:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

So, all they have to do is find some bogus thing to charge people ("drug possession" seems to be the go to choice, since the evidence can be easily planted), then send them to privatized prison where their labor can be rented out at a profit to the prison owners.

Aha! So all we need to do is to make sex illegal and pregnancy the punishment. Frankly I would not be surprised if a far right winger proposes that.

 

[crossfire]

What if some states wanted to reinstate slavery?

This is more of a case of involuntary servitude.

 

[Father Heathen]

This is more of a case of involuntary servitude.

I wasn't drawing any comparison. I was try to point out the absurdity that states should be able to overstep and trampling a right/freedom.

 

[metis]

Even though I'm pro-life, this bill by Abbott & Co is likely to be overturned even with this right-dominated court because it involves an "uninterested third party" filing a lawsuit against someone that they have not been affected by.