Texas legislature is trying to violate the First Amendment:

[We Never Know]

Texas state Senate approves bill to post Ten Commandments in public schools

The Texas state Senate approved a bill on Thursday that would require public schools in the Lone Star state to prominently display the Ten Commandments in every classroom. The legislation, which pa…

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That's right, trying to give Florida Man a run for his money the Texas State legislature tries to show that they are even more idiotic. They passed a bill ordering the posting of the Ten Commandments in public schools. How will non-Abrahamic religions respond?

What exactly is the first first amendment as you see it?

Is a school posting the ten commandments exercising their first amendment right?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What exactly is the first first amendment as you see it?

Is a school posting the ten commandments exercising their first amendment right?

No , the school is a government agency. They are trying to impose their religious beliefs upon others. That i s not allowed. People are able to follow their own religious beliefs. But no one, especially any government entity, is allowed to impose their religions upon others.

 

[Heyo]

What exactly is the first first amendment as you see it?

Is a school posting the ten commandments exercising their first amendment right?

That's grey area but it is also irrelevant as we are dealing with a law compelling schools to display the 10 Commandments (and in a specific format that's exclusive to protestant, KJV Christians). You can't be more in contradiction to the First.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's grey area but it is also irrelevant as we are dealing with a law compelling schools to display the 10 Commandments (and in a specific format that's exclusive to protestant, KJV Christians). You can't be more in contradiction to the First.

It could have been legal. They would only need to allow schools, in fact order schools, to display all lists similar to the Ten Commandments.

If a Hindu had a list they would have to post it. If a Muslim had a different one they would have to post it, and of course Satanists would be presenting their list.

 

[Father Heathen]

Is a school posting the ten commandments exercising their first amendment right?

Who is "their"? A public school is government ran and tax funded, thus bound by the establishment clause of the first amendment. Private schools (many of which are religious) are a different story.

 

[Sedim Haba]

How will non-Abrahamic religions respond?

Too bad I don't live in TX, I'd sue to give Noachide laws equal representation.

 

[fantome profane]

What exactly is the first first amendment as you see it?

Is a school posting the ten commandments exercising their first amendment right?

No. That is a clear violation of the establishment clause. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”. Passing a law that says a public school must display the ten commandments clearly violates that.

And that is not just my opinion, The Supreme Court has already ruled on this exact issue.

 

[Subduction Zone]

One thing that Christians sometimes point out that Moses and the Ten Commandments is on an exterior Supreme Court frieze. And yes. he is. But so are Confucius, Mohammad, Hammurabi ( a likely source for the Ten Commandments) Menes of Egypt and others. They did not make the error of having only Moses.

 

[Sedim Haba]

One thing that Christians sometimes point out that Moses and the Ten Commandments is on an exterior Supreme Court frieze. And yes. he is. But so are Confucius, Mohammad, Hammurabi ( a likely source for the Ten Commandments) Menes of Egypt and others. They did not make the error of having only Moses.

Pretty sure Moses wasn't Xian, just sayin.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Pretty sure Moses wasn't Xian, just sayin.

He is an "ex-post facto" Christian to many. Christians have adopted him as one of their own.

 

[Callisto]

He is an "ex-post facto" Christian to many. Christians have adopted him as one of their own.

A friend had a coworker who was the type of person who says a bunch of bigoted things but don't think they are. She was saying some pretty anti-Semitic stuff and my friend was like, "uh, you do know Jesus was a Jew, right?" The woman (who was Christian) actually scoffed, "No, he wasn't." My friend, "So, what was he?" The woman looked at her like she was daft, "He was a Christian! Why on earth would other Christians worship a Jew?!" My friend was just...

 

[Subduction Zone]

A friend had a coworker who was the type of person who says a bunch of bigoted things but don't think they are. She was saying some pretty anti-Semitic stuff and my friend was like, "uh, you do know Jesus was a Jew, right?" The woman (who was Christian) actually scoffed, "No, he wasn't." My friend, "So, what was he?" The woman looked at her like she was daft, "He was a Christian! Why on earth would other Christians worship a Jew?!" My friend was just...

And he was white too

Okay, when one looks at his race has changed in the US. At one point Jesus was "white" here. Arabic people were once rated as "white". And in another thread on Egyptians suing Netflix I pointed out that many Egyptians consider themselves to be white. But the beliefs of all sorts of bigots can be quite comical at times.

 

[Callisto]

And he was white too

Okay, when one looks at his race has changed in the US. At one point Jesus was "white" here.

He still is and ever was as far as some are concerned. 50 year old episode, still applicable today:

Arabic people were once rated as "white". And in another thread on Egyptians suing Netflix I pointed out that many Egyptians consider themselves to be white. But the beliefs of all sorts of bigots can be quite comical at times.

The US has a long history of ignoring how groups self-identify. In the early 20th century, the only European immigrants considered white were those from England, Ireland, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and The Netherlands.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

A friend had a coworker who was the type of person who says a bunch of bigoted things but don't think they are. She was saying some pretty anti-Semitic stuff and my friend was like, "uh, you do know Jesus was a Jew, right?" The woman (who was Christian) actually scoffed, "No, he wasn't." My friend, "So, what was he?" The woman looked at her like she was daft, "He was a Christian! Why on earth would other Christians worship a Jew?!" My friend was just...

And he was white too

Okay, when one looks at his race has changed in the US. At one point Jesus was "white" here. Arabic people were once rated as "white". And in another thread on Egyptians suing Netflix I pointed out that many Egyptians consider themselves to be white. But the beliefs of all sorts of bigots can be quite comical at times.

In the past, I have seen the WASP version of Jesus (a white male with blonde hair and blue eyes) in predominantly white evangelical churches.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

In the past, I have seen the WASP version of Jesus (a white male with blonde hair and blue eyes) in predominantly white evangelical churches.

As I was writing this response, I remembered this funny video called GOP Jesus.

 

[anna.]

We've been trying to recover from Christian
culture, & we're making progress at elimniating
its worst features, eg, Manifest Destiny, slavery,
theocracy, compulsory prayer, blue laws.
There's so much more work to do.

I wonder how many people are even aware of....

Manifest destiny - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Oh yes. Also the Seven Mountains Mandate and Dominionism.

 

[Father Heathen]

Too bad I don't live in TX,

Actually that's probably something to be thankful for.

 

[anna.]

It's a fact that Texans are very nationalistic.
Even in Europe we know that they are very proud of being Texans. And of their identity. So they just want to underline the historical and cultural principles of their own state.
It's not imposing Christianity on children. It's just an aspect of the culture. Children are free to be atheists or not-Christians.

It's absolutely imposing Christianity on children. Which is exactly why Catholic parishes started the parochial school system in the U.S. after huge waves of Catholic immigrants faced hostility and discrimination by the Protestant-dominated public school system here. Although a product of Catholic and Christian schooling myself, my children went successfully through the public school system because of my strong belief in the separation of church and state.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

No. That is a clear violation of the establishment clause. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”. Passing a law that says a public school must display the ten commandments clearly violates that.

And that is not just my opinion, The Supreme Court has already ruled on this exact issue.

Unfortunately, that does not mean that the current SC might not undo that ruling as it has on other "settled" legal matters in the last two years...

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Pretty sure Moses wasn't Xian, just sayin.

It's always fascinated me how insistent the fundies (well, and even many non-fundies) are on having Moses and the Ten Commandments in schools, but apparently don't ask for Jesus and his Beatitudes, who would seem to be a much more 'natural fit' for Christianity...