Texas makes a law that aborted fetuses have to be buried.

[Deidre]

No one is being forced to attend a burial.

So this is a law that only affects (mandates) healthcare facilities to perform the burial/cremation.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Who already pays for the disposal of the remains?

So because women are already financially penalised for needing abortions, it's okay to make them pay more?

 

[Lighthouse]

So because women are already financially penalised for needing abortions, it's okay to make them pay more?

Many abortions are not "needed." Many women financially penalize themselves for their choices. The burden of responsibility is on them. Not all women though.

I won't be quick to perform prophecy that women are going to have to pay more. If it does become the case, I'd disagree with them paying more.

 

[Coder]

This in Texas sounds as if it is a voice promoting respect for unborn children.

Ironically, I think that our Western (Judeo-Christian) culture may have some accidental role in much of society's lack of respect for unborn children. We celebrate birthdays, not conception days. People celebrate Jesus' birthday, not His conception day. So, this may have subtly given others the assumption that birth is the start point of "life". The technology today to see (and possibly even interact in small ways with) unborn children is catching up.

To me, it's all about mercy and "do unto others". Each of us was an embryo at one stage in our lives so it's not fair to deny rights to others going through the same stages of life that we went through.

At the same time, mothers who feel uncomfortable with being pregnant, should be helped by our society. We should have tax-funded homes for them, especially If we're going to have tax funding for abortions. Some say, "it's my right, it's my body". It's really not that simple. We live in a society where our rights and liberties (e.g. in America) are granted and protected by tax-funded social systems and government that we all pay for. It's not true that each of us is an island and so it's really not fair to summarily dismiss/ignore those who try to speak up for respect for unborn children.

 

[Lighthouse]

So this is a law that only affects (mandates) healthcare facilities to perform the burial/cremation.

No one can force anyone to "attend" a burial or cremation.

We would need to see a copy of the legislation to see the regulations that the healthcare facilities are obligated to perform. In my opinion, it wouldn't be much different than what they do now financially, outside of it being more humane.

 

[columbus]

Doubtful on the considerable financial burden, due to precisely what the article states. Also, women don't have to be there for burial or cremation.
Little to no financial burden. There are finances associated with remains regardless. I'm not under the impression there will be some full blown funeral ceremony.

I am looking for a reason to care about the corpse.
I very much oppose elective abortion. But the only reason I see for this legislation is to make life difficult for mothers.
Trying to do and end run around RvW. I don't like RvW, but it is just as much law as the Electoral College.
The problem we pro-lifers have is that the USA is not a pro-life country or culture. That is what needs fixing. Not making life difficult for people who follow the law of the land. That is wienie BS.
Tom

 

[fantome profane]

Who already pays for the disposal of the remains?

Who pays for the disposal of an appendix that had to be removed, or tonsils? Who pays for the disposal of wisdom teeth when they are removed?

 

[idav]

YIKES We just passed a law that aborted babies have to buried or cremated.

Heres the link. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/af...r-buried/ar-AAkTqkH?li=AA4ZnC&ocid=spartandhp

Sounds like a step away from giving fetuses human rights. I'm iffy on that.

 

[Lighthouse]

I am looking for a reason to care about the corpse.
I very much oppose elective abortion. But the only reason I see for this legislation is to make life difficult for mothers.
Trying to do and end run around RvW. I don't like RvW, but it is just as much law as the Electoral College.
The problem we pro-lifers have is that the USA is not a pro-life country or culture. That is what needs fixing. Not making life difficult for people who follow the law of the land. That is wienie BS.
Tom

I think neutral, for now. I can't create empty prophecy until I see costs and the hardship actually transpire. Right now, I personally don't see it. There are various sorts of methods for the corpse that all cost money.

An underlying problem are the health facilities in my opinion. They are all highly profitable, and whether they make big profit off of donating aborted organs, tissues, fluids, blood or not, the donated material is in all sorts of stuff that other companies make a killing off of. Therefore, in my opinion, if there are any additional costs... it is bogus in my opinion and it's the health facilities increasing bogus costs, not the legislation. They are all interconnected, from the clinics performing the abortions, to the government, to the research facilities receiving donations, and to the many companies who use aborted material in their products. Abortion is a highly profitable industry.

 

[Lighthouse]

Who pays for the disposal of an appendix that had to be removed, or tonsils? Who pays for the disposal of wisdom teeth when they are removed?

They charge the person and then turn around and make a thousand fold the profit.

You are just expressing my point, however. There are costs no matter what.

 

[SomeRandom]

How.............Creepy.
I mean if a woman and/or the father decides to hold a funeral of their own free will for a fetus that has not come to term for whatever reason, that's one thing. But this strikes me as slightly wasteful and unnecessary. Not to mention putting emotional blackmail on the table. What if the parent wants the fetus to be donated for medical research?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Heaven forbid they turn something they see as a great travesty into a great opportunity of medical research.

 

[Quetzal]

Time to reset the clock!

Days Since Texas Made an $#% of Itself: 0

 

[Quetzal]

To be serious, this is a ridiculous law. The lawmakers do not have genuine interest in fetuses or public safety. The sole intent is to further punish the mother and pigeon hole her choice out of financial necessity. The irony is the same folks who are welcoming this form of legislation are the same people who want a smaller government. It is more than clear that they only want the government out when it conveniences them. Finally, mock my words, this will cause a noticeable rise in the maternal death rate. Further, abortions will still occur. They will also be more dangerous.

 

[Revoltingest]

Doubtless @Revoltingest will come up with something that a Democrat said in 1968 that is just as bad.

Still smarting from your discovery that Hillary tried to pass a law making flag burning a felony?

 

[columbus]

Still smarting from your discovery that Hillary tried to pass a law making flag burning a felony?

Hillary who?
Why do you keep bringing up some loser instead of explaining how much better off we are with the President you voted for?
You Voted For.
Not me. I wanted the competent candidate, but that doesn't matter any more because you got your Choice. And now he thinks that you should suffer consequences if you burn a flag.
Or maybe not. It's impossible to know which parts of what he says is true and which parts he knew weren't when he said it.
Tom

Let me repeat this. You picked him. Most people chose someone else. Including me.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hillary who?
Why do you keep bringing up some loser instead of explaining how much better off we are with the President you voted for?

We aren't better off yet.
I'll let you know when I see some results.

I wanted the competent candidate.....

Hillary is competent?
What has she actually accomplished....other than utterly failing to secure sensitive info.

.....but that doesn't matter any more because you got your Choice. And now he thinks that you should suffer consequences if you burn a flag.

This is true of both Donald & Hilda.
And in her case, it wasn't just some ill considered "tweet".....it was a
very intentional & considered piece of legislation she introduced.

Or maybe not. It's impossible to know which parts of what he says is true and which parts he knew weren't when he said it.

You're only just now noticing that?

Let me repeat this. You picked him. Most people chose someone else. Including me.

It's also true that most people voted against Hillary.

 

[Quetzal]

We aren't better off yet.
I'll let you know when I see some results.

Hillary is competent?
What has she actually accomplished....other than utterly failing to secure sensitive info.

This is true of both Donald & Hilda.
And in her case, it wasn't just some ill considered "tweet".....it was a
very intentional & considered piece of legislation she introduced.

You're only just now noticing that?

It's also true that most people voted against Hillary.

Why are we discussing Hillary Clinton again. Please, I am begging you. Let it go. Honestly, the novelty of this is wearing very thin.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why are we discussing Hillary Clinton again. Please, I am begging you. Let it go. Honestly, the novelty of this is wearing very thin.

Oh, come on....I was summoned by @columbus to continue his theme from another thread.
He mistakenly thinks that I'd favor a law requiring a funeral for an aborted fetus.

I don't know whether TX legislators think medical waste is sacred or if they're just
setting up another economic hurdle to abortion.....either way, I oppose it.

 

[Quetzal]

Oh, come on....I was summoned by @columbus to continue his theme from another thread.

Only one way to settle it.