The fascists will probably yell "Loser!"
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Texas Republicans Call For Execution of Women Who Receive Abortions, IVF In Horrifying Video
- Thread starter Wandering Monk
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While it's worth nothing, I should say that as a gay man on the left, I do not view women as nothing more than body parts, nor property. As it happens, for example, both my doctor and dentist (and the ones before, for the last 40 years) have been women, who I trust as professionals completely.
Why, because you can't read the signs yourself, you need to be told?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't need telling by anyone. I need actual evidence.
Like this actual evidence that Democrats are now a party of socialist sympathizers.
So now show me actual evidence that Republicans are pro fascist.
How many Democrats are there in the United States, can you tell me? And how many are in that one short video? (The answers, by the way are about 49,000,000 registered Democrats, about 10-12 people in the video and only one speaker.)
And why do you think you can use such a small number to tar so very many others who were not there?
If I restrict myself to Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gaetz and claim they represent all Republicans, would you think that fair? I doubt it. So why do you do it?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't see Democrats objecting to having socialists in their party.
Dosent matter how many or how few, the fact the party completly accepts socialists as members without nary a whimper or objection proves the party is sympathetic to socialists and clearly welcomes socialist policymaking.
I'm still patiently waiting for any Republican yelling, " Fascism wins"! or I'll even wait to see if there are any Republicans in government signed up and registered with the "Fascist Republicans of America" assuming one could find such an organization existing , unlike the "Democratic Socialists of America".
Many posters argue that "socialism" is the Nordic Model.
The Nordic model is based on capitalism generating the
productivity to fund social programs. This is the US
system too. You seemed to side with them. You don't?
Because all politicians are socialist to some degree, including republicans. There are no socialists like the nations you mention, China and Venezuela. We know you conflate meanings, and you don't say otherwise. Have you ever said what your so called American socialists want and how it's bad? Of course not, because how do you argue againt women's reproductive rights, or public schools, or universal healthcare, or voting rights, and fair taxation, and not sound like a sociopath?
Do you agree that all the criminals who have been convicted in the Jan 6 attack be released? Should death threats against judges and public officials be legal to your mind? In Colorado death threats have increasd 600% against public officials after they filed to have Trump removed from the ballot for his involvement in the insurrection. Is that how your side is at its core value system? Is that not how fascism works, to terrorize opponents to criminal leaders?
Can you name a single democrat who wants socialism like China or Venezuela?
Being against the basic human decency issue like I listed above can only be called fascist, so which side are you one? The fascist side or the socialist side?
I went through that yesterday -- Post #31. I know it's a long time ago, now, but really...
Your outright animosity towards a political position that you can't even properly define nor recognize who holds it really is over-the-top. Your inability to see that not everyone puts people into little pigeon-holes marked "fit-to-exist" and "kill-them-all" tells us a lot about you. Most people can engage in political dialogue with a little more grace, with a little more acceptance of the simple fact that every human being is entitled to their own opinion. Even the dreaded "Socialist."
The fact is, the Republican Party is slavishly licking the boots of a man who, just a day ago, attacked the daughter of a judge in one of his New York cases. And lied in that attack. Now, what does any judge's daughter, son, wife or third cousin have to do with his case? What kind of person would do such a thing? And what kind of people would worship his sorry tush?
Anyway, you want to know about Fascism? Trump's allies have drafted a sweeping document, Project 2025, led by the conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation, and details a blueprint for Trump's second term, should Americans be stupid enough to give him one.
You can look at Wikipedia's entry on this: Project 2025 - Wikipedia, which begins by noting that "The plan would perform a swift restructuring of the executive branch under a maximalist version of the unitary executive theory — a theory proposing the president of the United States has absolute power over the executive branch — upon inauguration." Note that: absolute power, never mind Congressional or judicial oversight, which are constitutional safe-guards. That's fascist right there.
You can look at the Project itself: About Project 2025 | Project 2025
Or you can look at what better thinkers recognize as the true dangers of this brutally authoritarian and anti-democratic plan is really all about: Project 2025 is the far-right playbook for American authoritarianism
Note particularly:
1. Project 2025: A Blueprint for Authoritarianism
2. The Role of Christian Nationalism
3. Gutting the Civil Service
4. Ending Racial Equity Efforts
5. Eviscerating LGBTQ+ Rights and Equality
6. Restricting Sexual and Reproductive Health and Rights
7. Hardline Immigration Policies
8. Ending Climate Change Efforts and Restricting Environment Policies
9. Ending “Woke” Military Policies
10. “Reforming” Public Education
11. Restricting Human Rights and Exiting International Bodies
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Actually the Nordic systems do have socialism. Like how everyone own the oil.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
We never actually gave him a first term. That was a privileged few bungholes who usefulness and purpose died out about 160 years ago.
Agreed. The EC is long past its best before date.
To call it "socialism" because it has one element
would mean that just about every capitalist
country is "socialist".
Socialists....they artfully try to find good examples
among real socialist countries, eg, USSR, N Korea,
but they can't.
It's not really a matter of a fascist side or a socialist side. Most US politics is based on Neoliberalism.
Neoliberalism - Wikipedia
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That was one example. You denied France even though they have it worded into their constitution amd entitles people to recieve certain things for free.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
You mean like how we own the oil on federal lands?
Pogo
Well-Known Member
We are hardly a pure capitalist state either,
So you have no objection to applying the term capitalism to a state that is not a pure "pure capitalist state", but you object to using the term socialist unless the state meets your socialist purity test.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Not me, I'm just surprised the @Revoltingest is not cognizant of how much we limit pure capitalism while insisting on only the most limited of definitions of Socialism.
I started half this mess by stating I am a Libertarian Socialist.
I am sorry, I got confused about who I was replying to. I need to pay more attention.