Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

[We Never Know]

Well the logic is to generate money to maintain the roadways being EV don't play gas taxes.
Though IMO they would probably pay more yearly(depending on how much they drove) in gas taxes if they drove gas cars.

Under new staye law, Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

"The new registration fee is meant to make up for the state’s lost revenue from gasoline taxes that are used to pay for road construction and maintenance.

Plano resident Tony Federico bought his Tesla five years ago in part because he hated spending lots of money on gas. But that financial calculus will change slightly on Sept. 1, when Texas will start charging electric vehicle drivers an additional fee of $200 each year.

“It just seems like it’s arbitrary, with no real logic behind it,” said Federico, 51, who works in information technology. “But I’m going to have to pay it.”
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Under new state law, Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

The new registration fee is meant to make up for the state’s lost revenue from gasoline taxes that are used to pay for road construction and maintenance.

www.texastribune.org

 

[PureX]

Well sure. If you drive an EV you must be "woke". And that deserves all kinds of punishment! (In Texas, anyway. You know; home to big oil, an all.)

 

[We Never Know]

Well sure. If you drive an EV you must be "woke". And that deserves all kinds of punishment! (In Texas, anyway. You know; home to big oil, an all.)

Gas taxes pay for maintaining roads. EV drivers still use the roads without paying gas taxes. Do you have a better ideal?

I guess they could charge per mile since people don't drive equal miles.

 

[PureX]

Gas taxes pay for maintaining roads. EV drivers still use the roads without paying gas taxes. Do you have a better ideal?

I guess they could charge per mile since people don't drive equal miles.

"Pay as you go" for public infrastructure was always a stupid idea that unfortunately appeals to people's selfishness and greed.

 

[Soandso]

Yahhh... If Texas were actually concerned over electric vehicles, a more practical move would be to either divert a tiny fraction of energy taxes towards road maintenance or add a tiny road tax to energy taxes. I have a feeling this is how things will move, inevitably. Electric vehicles are going to be the future sooner or later. Seems more wise to prepare for the needed infrastructure this will demand than to ignore the situation and pretend things won't change. Shortsightedness, imo

 

[Debater Slayer]

Well the logic is to generate money to maintain the roadways being EV don't play gas taxes.
Though IMO they would probably pay more yearly(depending on how much they drove) in gas taxes if they drove gas cars.

Under new staye law, Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

"The new registration fee is meant to make up for the state’s lost revenue from gasoline taxes that are used to pay for road construction and maintenance.

Plano resident Tony Federico bought his Tesla five years ago in part because he hated spending lots of money on gas. But that financial calculus will change slightly on Sept. 1, when Texas will start charging electric vehicle drivers an additional fee of $200 each year.

“It just seems like it’s arbitrary, with no real logic behind it,” said Federico, 51, who works in information technology. “But I’m going to have to pay it.”
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Under new state law, Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

The new registration fee is meant to make up for the state’s lost revenue from gasoline taxes that are used to pay for road construction and maintenance.

www.texastribune.org

The subject of lost tax revenue from EV users has been discussed in many articles, and based on what I've read, I think it's fair to charge EV users a tax roughly equivalent to what drivers of ICE-powered cars pay toward road and infrastructure maintenance.

One approach, as this article notes, is to impose higher registration fees on EVs but lower annual taxes. Another approach is to incentivize EV ownership via federal tax incentives while taxing them at charging stations.

Without a Gas Tax, How Will EVs Be Charged for Road Use? - Consumer Reports

Consumer Reports looks at where the funding for state and federal roads will come from as more Americans switch to electric vehicles.

www.consumerreports.org

I believe the government should ensure that EV ownership is incentivized but that EV drivers still contribute a share of taxes toward maintenance and development of infrastructure like all other drivers do.

Per this link (Texas' Motor Fuels Taxes), Texas has a fuel tax of $0.2 per gallon. This means that in order to match an EV's annual tax of $200, an ICE-powered vehicle has to consume 1,000 gallons of fuel per year. The national annual average of fuel consumption per registered vehicle in the US is just below half of this amount:

• 489 gallons/year per registered vehicle: On average, there are 275.9 million registered vehicles in the United States and in 2021, 8.79 million barrels per day of gasoline was sold.

Top Numbers Driving America's Gasoline Demand

Do you know the number of miles driven collectively every year by Americans? It’s not in the millions or even the billions. In 2021, Americans drove an estimated 3.2 trillion miles on our roads and highways. As we face record-setting gas prices ahead of the 2022 summer driving season, it is...

www.api.org

It's likely that there are many variables I'm not taking into account here, so I'm not sure what the fairest approach would be. In general, though, I have no problem with the principle that EV owners should pay taxes to make up for lost fuel tax. How much the taxes should be is the question.

 

[sun rise]

I basically agree with @Debater Slayer - roads need to be maintained and a modest charge for EVs is reasonable although I'm open to other methods.

 

[Revoltingest]

I basically agree with @Debater Slayer - roads need to be maintained and a modest charge for EVs is reasonable although I'm open to other methods.

Fee structures are often used to incentivize behavior.
NJ subsidized daughter's new EV with 25% tax rebate.
There's something to be said for (or against) that.

I favor the plug-in hybrid. It's an EV for commutes.
It sips gasoline on long trips, but with regenerative
braking.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Fee structures are often used to incentivize behavior.
NJ subsidized daughter's new EV with 25% tax rebate.
There's something to be said for (or against) that.

I favor the plug-in hybrid. It's an EV for commutes.
It sips gasoline on long trips, but with regenerative
braking.

I love the option to have a solar-panel roof on the new Toyota Prius.

Is The Prius Prime's Solar Roof Worth The Extra Cost? - SlashGear

An option available on the 2023 Prius is a solar roof, which provides some extra charging, but is its charging rate worth the $600+ additional cost?

www.slashgear.com

 

[The Hammer]

Well sure. If you drive an EV you must be "woke". And that deserves all kinds of punishment! (In Texas, anyway. You know; home to big oil, an all.)

They do this in WA too. It's to subsidize the lack of fuel tax incoming.

Edit: well @Debater Slayer was more verbose in his response on this.

 

[Viker]

A "woke" tax for being "woke". Welcome to a red state. Actually, it is intended to offset for the lack of a fuel tax. It looks like it sucks but that internal revenue doesn't materialize on its own.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well the logic is to generate money to maintain the roadways being EV don't play gas taxes.
Though IMO they would probably pay more yearly(depending on how much they drove) in gas taxes if they drove gas cars.

Under new staye law, Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

"The new registration fee is meant to make up for the state’s lost revenue from gasoline taxes that are used to pay for road construction and maintenance.

Plano resident Tony Federico bought his Tesla five years ago in part because he hated spending lots of money on gas. But that financial calculus will change slightly on Sept. 1, when Texas will start charging electric vehicle drivers an additional fee of $200 each year.

“It just seems like it’s arbitrary, with no real logic behind it,” said Federico, 51, who works in information technology. “But I’m going to have to pay it.”
.

Under new state law, Texas will bill electric vehicle drivers an extra $200 a year

The new registration fee is meant to make up for the state’s lost revenue from gasoline taxes that are used to pay for road construction and maintenance.

www.texastribune.org

Nothing the Democrats wouldn't do.

Sad political entities just cannot give the middle class and poor a break without first compulsivly shaking them ever further and effectively robbing people for every single nickle and dime one has.

I'd expect that from Democrats, not Republicans.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I love the option to have a solar-panel roof on the new Toyota Prius.

Is The Prius Prime's Solar Roof Worth The Extra Cost? - SlashGear

An option available on the 2023 Prius is a solar roof, which provides some extra charging, but is its charging rate worth the $600+ additional cost?

www.slashgear.com

I like the solar panel as well. It ought to be the standard.

 

[ChristineM]

On fuel tax on average mileage $200 is actually penalising EV drivers. But I'd expect that from Texas​

 

[icehorse]

“It just seems like it’s arbitrary, with no real logic behind it,” said Federico, 51, who works in information technology. “But I’m going to have to pay it.”

Helping pay for the commons seems like a no-brainer.

What I'd like to see is a phasing out of all vehicle subsidies. EVs are not better for the environment in the long run (e.g. mining lithium), so people need to start to se the true cost of the vehicles they use.

 

[PureX]

They do this in WA too. It's to subsidize the lack of fuel tax incoming.

Edit: well @Debater Slayer was more verbose in his response on this.

WV wants us to switch to coal-fired automobiles. Texas of course just wants to punish all things it thinks is "woke".

 

[Revoltingest]

Helping pay for the commons seems like a no-brainer.

What I'd like to see is a phasing out of all vehicle subsidies. EVs are not better for the environment in the long run (e.g. mining lithium), so people need to start to se the true cost of the vehicles they use.

Do you think that burning fossil fuels is better?
What are the true costs of alternatives?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I love the option to have a solar-panel roof on the new Toyota Prius.

Is The Prius Prime's Solar Roof Worth The Extra Cost? - SlashGear

An option available on the 2023 Prius is a solar roof, which provides some extra charging, but is its charging rate worth the $600+ additional cost?

www.slashgear.com

I have my doubts if it will be cost effective. Or at least it would not be in my state.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And sooner or later we will have to find a way to tax EV's for their road use.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's peculiar all the reactions by the left wing over Republicans charging road tax for evs , when Democrats did essentially same thing with coos of delight and approval for the proposal including a pilot program to boot.

Higher fees coming for electric vehicles: Roadshow

Electric vehicle owners pay $100 to register their vehicles in California, and that will increase over time, depending on the cost of the vehicle.

www.mercurynews.com

California Expands Road Mileage Tax Pilot Program • Stateline

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, signed legislation Friday expanding a pilot program that charges drivers a fee based on the number of miles they drive instead of a gasoline tax. Oregon and Utah launched similar pilot programs in 2015 and 2020, respectively, that yielded mixed results...

stateline.org

California Road Charge

caroadcharge.com