Subduction Zone
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Sadly it looks like PureFlix got their hands on the project. Oh well, The Rock, would have ruined it as well.
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Thai cave ordeal turning into quite a drama
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Sadly it looks like PureFlix got their hands on the project. Oh well, The Rock, would have ruined it as well.
I wonder how much truth will be sacrificed to any particular agenda? Perhaps a documentary will hopefully be more accurate, and no doubt there will be plenty of these too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44791998
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...rked-the-inside-story-of-the-thai-cave-rescue
Might as well get as much truth out there before those with an agenda get to work on this incident.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...rked-the-inside-story-of-the-thai-cave-rescue
Might as well get as much truth out there before those with an agenda get to work on this incident.
Jumi
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Finnish diver who took part in the operation said he and a couple of others almost died after the wild boars were rescued. The cave started flooding and they had 10 minutes to leave, and had to "free dive" out of the last cave(not sure what it means, probably without equipment). It was a close call and the people outside thought they were goners already. They were the last ones out.
You should capitalize proper names.
For a couple seconds, I really thought the "wild boars" were pigs.
In the news, Elon Musk throws a tantrum....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...boys-says-Elon-Musk-stick-submarine-hurt.html
From some reports, it appears a pump was switched off or failed such that water rose fairly quickly and unexpectedly. Free-diving, which I have done, means just holding one's breath whilst negotiating any sump, so presumably they were caught out without any air bottles at hand during this incident. Lots of people involved so will be interesting to hear all their stories.
More on the feud.....
https://www.afp.com/en/news/205/bri...action-after-elon-musk-pedo-tweet-doc-17p8y71
https://www.afp.com/en/news/205/bri...action-after-elon-musk-pedo-tweet-doc-17p8y71
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
A double post do I see.
Perhaps Musk is bilingual and was merely calling the diver a bit of flatulence.
Perhaps Musk is bilingual and was merely calling the diver a bit of flatulence.
I sure hope he isn't one, but elderly European male living in Thailand = pedo often is the logic used.
Shades of Arthur C Clarke, who lived elsewhere.
Double posting is a problem because my PC is prone to freezing.
I often tell what will happen when multiple tries are needed to post.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
As you pointed out once when I use my tablet, no so much with my computer, I too have problems with double posts at times.
At any rate since Musk now lives in Southern Californiastan I am putting the blame on his use of Latino gardeners for the "pedo" remark:
https://www.interglot.com/dictionary/es/en/translate/pedo
I chalk it up to Musk's being a pompous jerk.
To accuse someone of being a pedophile
without a sound basis is heinous abuse.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What!? The savoir of the world is a pompous jerk? How could you make such a claim?
But seriously he has been right a few times and now he is getting a God complex. You might enjoy how YouTuber Thunderf00t has torn up his "Hyperloop" concept.
He owes his existence to massive government subsidies.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I am sure that he has taken advantage of them. But unlike some of the other manufacturers of electric cars he seems to have a better approach. He started out with a viable proof of concept, the Tesla Roadster. His first car was only half his. He used a chassis by Lotus. It had mechanical glitches, as many first products do, but it was an amazingly quick car that proved electric cars were a viable alternative to fossil fuel powered cars.
I am not too informed of his Space-X part of his business. But he seems to be doing okay there. The Hyper-Loop is almost certainly doomed to failure. At least with the approach that he has taken to date.
Not sure this can be seen everywhere but a bit pertinent to this incident - happened over 50 years ago in the UK but with a rather more tragic outcome:
What a horrible way to go.
Yeah - I started caving in the area shortly after this happened, joining a club involved in the attempted rescue. Heightened the issue of flash floods somewhat. Many caves have small streams flowing down the entrance (or out of the entrance), and I have been down many, but these usually will be able to take large quantities of water because they are usually quite deep. The Mossdale cave was basically quite flat such that the entrance was under water at one stage and apparently the whole cave filled with hardly any airspaces. It can be quite exciting when there is a large amount of water flowing underground but where the cave can cope with such. Sadly, a few are quite dangerous though, and one does then take a big risk unless the conditions can be relied on.
Claustrophobia inducing spaces.
Death by drowning or suffocation.
Potential to be crushed by rocks.
Wet, muddy & cold.
What's not to like?
Much like what I have written elsewhere (and below) - it takes all sorts to make up humanity.
Caving does appear to be a bit like Marmite, in that either one loves it or hates it. Having to overcome numerous fears - of the dark, of claustrophobia, of being cold and/or wet, of being lost, trapped or buried alive, of falling rocks, of heights and falling, of water and drowning, of being injured and the potential for a difficult rescue, and lastly, of being dirty, uncomfortable, and physically exhausted - and all this possibly experienced in the same cave - what’s not to love about caving? It is possibly the combination of all these factors, and in overcoming them, that appeals to many of those who love caving. Few other pastimes can boast such an array of different challenges.
And many would still say - but why?
A friend was an avid caver. He discovered news sections of Mammoth, as I recall.Much like what I have written elsewhere (and below) - it takes all sorts to make up humanity.
Caving does appear to be a bit like Marmite, in that either one loves it or hates it. Having to overcome numerous fears - of the dark, of claustrophobia, of being cold and/or wet, of being lost, trapped or buried alive, of falling rocks, of heights and falling, of water and drowning, of being injured and the potential for a difficult rescue, and lastly, of being dirty, uncomfortable, and physically exhausted - and all this possibly experienced in the same cave - what’s not to love about caving? It is possibly the combination of all these factors, and in overcoming them, that appeals to many of those who love caving. Few other pastimes can boast such an array of different challenges.
And many would still say - but why?
e was skinny, smart & obsessive. He never mentioned his having been into caving.
I only found out by seeing a book about him (& others).
As Nicholai Hel said (in the novel, Shibumi), spelunking is not about being showy.