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Namaste,
Yessir. If a lady can go to jail for having consensual sex, I fear for my future.
M.V.
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That Wacky.....no....Demented United Arab Emirates
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Namaste,
Yessir. If a lady can go to jail for having consensual sex, I fear for my future.
M.V.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
Why she had to drink vodka with a man,didn't she expect what will happen next.
in my past times with girls,starting from a fast food restaurant to a movie house and finally to my room and no vodka was needed.
Just because someone gets drunk around you, doesn't necessarily mean they want sex.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Not around him but in his room and besides that the hotel cams captured both hugging before entering the room
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Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
Even so, unless she specifically gives consent, it's not on. But even then, heavily intoxicated people also have diminished consent. I've heard in this thread that she was so drunk, she blacked-out and lost consciousness.
When I was a teen I remember having a drunk, female friend sleep in my bed with me. Which sucked, because not only was my bed small, but she had an annoying habit of stealing all the cover!
Still, nothing sexual, no sexual intentions on both sides. So there you have it: a drunk female in your bed is still no excuse to have sex without consent. :no:
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Even so, unless she specifically gives consent, it's not on. But even then, heavily intoxicated people also have diminished consent. I've heard in this thread that she was so drunk, she blacked-out and lost consciousness.
When I was a teen I remember having a drunk, female friend sleep in my bed with me. Which sucked, because not only was my bed small, but she had an annoying habit of stealing all the cover!
Still, nothing sexual, no sexual intentions on both sides. So there you have it: a drunk female in your bed is still no excuse to have sex without consent. :no:
Yes of course,she has to kiss you first if she wanted sex and also it's up to you if you'll run away and report her that she tried to rape you.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
So you're saying under the conditions I mentioned with my female friend, that I should have basically just had sex with her - essentially just should've raped her 'cause she was "asking for it" by being drunk and in my bed?!
So you're saying under the conditions I mentioned with my female friend, that I should have basically just had sex with her - essentially just should've raped her 'cause she was "asking for it" by being drunk and in my bed?!
Sounds like the perfect plan to endear yourself to her. To say nothing of making yourself feel like a regular Casanova. I applaud FearGod's insights into human psychology and sexuality.
People have different expectations.Why she had to drink vodka with a man,didn't she expect what will happen next.
in my past times with girls,starting from a fast food restaurant to a movie house and finally to my room and no vodka was needed.
If you want sex, but she's in no state of mind to answer,
then you've no right to presume the answer is "yes".
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
So you're saying under the conditions I mentioned with my female friend, that I should have basically just had sex with her - essentially just should've raped her 'cause she was "asking for it" by being drunk and in my bed?!
No you should leave her alone,why to sleep with her in one bed,you can move to the sofa or even on the floor.
i did it before with one girl,i slept on the sofa while i let her on my own bed.
dust1n
Zindīq
Old people cannot metabolize alcohol as well as young people. And it isn't a "no question" that she'd be extremely impaired. 3 nights of previous drinking (and the fact that she was out to three anyways means she's no stranger to the night life), and 5 drinks could feel, like, not more then tipsy.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
In fairness, two people sharing a bed without any sexual/romantic intentions is acceptable in my view. I've shared beds with male friends in the past. It's only sleeping.
It doesn't actually *have* to be "something".
P.S - Unless specifically requested, I'm not sleeping on the damn floor in my own room!
So are you arguing that she did not black out?
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
dust1n
Zindīq
To "black out" and retain full function... extremely unlikely. We all forget things drunk, but this is different then blacking out, where all memory is lost, and the night continues.
The taxi cab left for the hotel at 3 am... this is known... the supposed rape happened in 7-7:30 am, as both acknowledged in their stances in court.
So, what? Am I supposed to believe that a drunk person sobered up over the course of four hours and then consented to having sex for four claimed minutes, only to turn around immediately and ask what the guy raped her, as by the admission of both parties? I guess I know alcohol a little too intimately.
EDIT: By the way, I was just saying her decision to drink may or may not have been a bad idea. Regardless, this says nothing about the insinuation of rape. I was originally agreeing with you though, regarding the switch of positions, because it is likely the cops and/or prosecutors were somehow involved in getting someone to admit to something via a giant language barrier.
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This analysis smacks too much of a guilty-til-proven-innocent standard.
dust1n
Zindīq
I didn't say anyone was guilty of anything.