The 2nd Amendment

[Reverend Rick]

Better yet only 1/4 believe the second amendment is not relevant.

 

[Revoltingest]

So you expect everyone out there to know you well enough to know who your friends are, and to perceive your tone without any indications thereof? Okay... I'm sorry that I don't measure up to your standards in that regard. Regardless, you can read my reply as supporting and underscoring the point you were making with what I now understand was your sarcasm. No harm, no foul.

Measure up?
Nah, I don't criticize you for my lack of clarity.
Think of my refusal to use emoticons as a personal hang-up.
We be good....I don't want to "bicker" with anyone.

Btw, by calling Jay my "buddy", I'm trying to make him feel creepy, dirty, violated, ashamed & icky.
(Did it work?)

 

[Revoltingest]

Better yet only 1/4 believe the second amendment is not relevant.

Your relentlessly Pollyanna positive attitude normally makes me wanna puke!
But this time...true dat.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Semi-clever shallow come-back:
Eagerness to give up constitutional liberties in exchange for a feeling of security is a sadly ovine response.

Rubbish. I fully support your right to make stupid statements.

 

[Revoltingest]

Rubbish. I fully support your right to make stupid statements.

Thank you!
I will fully exercise this right.
And I respect your ovine orientation.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Rubbish. I fully support your right to make stupid statements.

:biglaugh:.....

 

[Revoltingest]

:biglaugh:.....

I hope you're laughing with me, & not at me

Anyway, this is a hot topic, & emotions will run high at times, so it's best to not just dismiss others as "stupid", "deranged" or "sad".
We're supposed to address the issues, rather than insulting the other poster, which is what I was trying to point in my mirthful response to Jay.
Heaven forbid my giving real & unvarnished opinions of other posters in RF! Tis better that I pretend to respect those with whom I disagree.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

A list of school shooting starting from 1764:

List of school shootings in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Interesting, is it not, that more regulations on guns has not even slowed the madmen down...

Interesting, is it not, that the article itself pointed out that the further back you go, the more the list leaves out relevant events:

It should be noted that the following list is mostly derived from the archives of the New York Times news articles, where prior to 1950's, very little information was reported from the Mid West and the West Coast. Although accurate in the actual accounts noted below, this list is most likely incomplete, devoid of any incidences west of the Mississippi River prior to the mid 1900's.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I hope you're laughing with me, & not at me

Anyway, this is a hot topic, & emotions will run high at times, so it's best to not just dismiss others as "stupid", "deranged" or "sad".
We're supposed to address the issues, rather than insulting the other poster, which is what I was trying to point in my mirthful response to Jay.
Heaven forbid my giving real & unvarnished opinions of other posters in RF! Tis better that I pretend to respect those with whom I disagree.

I hope you didn't take offense. I was simply laughing at his delivery. I personally don't view your comments or you in general as "stupid"....

 

[Revoltingest]

I hope you didn't take offense. I was simply laughing at his delivery. I personally don't view your comments or you in general as "stupid"....

No offense taken at all...even if you were laughing at me.
(I sense mirth in Jay's post too.)

 

[Kilgore Trout]

"I'm not giving up my 2nd Amendment rights" is sounding more and more like "Twenty first-graders getting gunned down isn't my problem" these days. When people are mindlessly and reactively attached to rights, they usually forget that they include responsibilities and should be rational.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

"I'm not giving up my 2nd Amendment rights" is sounding more and more like "Twenty first-graders getting gunned down isn't my problem" these days. When people are mindlessly and reactively attached to rights, they usually forget that they include responsibilities and should be rational.

:clap

 

[Revoltingest]

"I'm not giving up my 2nd Amendment rights" is sounding more and more like "Twenty first-graders getting gunned down isn't my problem" these days.

It's actually a response to calls by lefties to give up rights, rather than to the shootings themselves.

When people are mindlessly and reactively attached to rights, they usually forget that they include responsibilities and should be rational.

When people "mindlessly & reactively" seek to quickly give up rights as a misguided quick fix to a tragedy, they ought to slow down & consider it more carefully.
They usually forget that gun owners favor responsible & rational behavior.

Whaddaya wanna bet that Jay won't post any clapping hands for my response?
Life is so unfair!

 

[Dirty Penguin]

"I'm not giving up my 2nd Amendment rights" is sounding more and more like "Twenty first-graders getting gunned down isn't my problem" these days. When people are mindlessly and reactively attached to rights, they usually forget that they include responsibilities and should be rational.

I tend to agree.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

It's actually a response to calls by lefties to give up rights, rather than to the shootings themselves.

When people "mindlessly & reactively" seek to quickly give up rights as a misguided quick fix to a tragedy, they ought to slow down & consider it more carefully.

Whaddaya wanna bet that Jay won't post any clapping hands for my response?
Life is so unfair!

This is just too funny here...NO ONE is forcing you to give up any of your rights at all.

 

[LuisDantas]

"I'm not giving up my 2nd Amendment rights" is sounding more and more like "Twenty first-graders getting gunned down isn't my problem" these days. When people are mindlessly and reactively attached to rights, they usually forget that they include responsibilities and should be rational.

Ain't that the truth?

:clap

 

[Kilgore Trout]

It's actually a response to calls by lefties to give up rights, rather than to the shootings themselves.

Precisely. The shootings aren't even a factor in the equation, despite the fact that they should be. This knee-jerk reactiveness to everything based on political "sides" is making any rational analysis and debate impossible.

When people "mindlessly & reactively" seek to quickly give up rights as a misguided quick fix to a tragedy, they ought to slow down & consider it more carefully.

I agree. However, your rhetoric doesn't invalidate or oppose my statements.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is just too funny here...NO ONE is forcing you to give up any of your rights at all.

That's a matter of opinion.
There are calls to give up the right to own guns, the type of which will vary depending upon who is doing the calling.
Just last week, I posted links about Democrats who wanted to ban all semi-autos. Until the courts ruled otherwise, DC
residents couldn't have handguns. So the threat of eroding gun rights strikes me as very real. So vigilance is needed.

 

[Revoltingest]

Precisely. The shootings aren't even a factor in the equation, despite the fact that they should be. This knee-jerk reactiveness to everything based on political "sides" is making any rational analysis and debate impossible.

The shootings are of course what started all the fevered discussion, but the rampant emotionalism & histrionics should not drive public policy.
Knees on both sides of this aisle are jerking to & fro. But we try to be above that here.
(But you know that you post demanded that I ape it. How could I not?)

I agree. However, your rhetoric doesn't invalidate or oppose my statements.

I may oppose your statements, but I don't claim validity.
I'm just a disembodied source of text (& occasionally pix) on the internet. I'm not to be trusted.

 

[Thief]

Most gun toting Americans aren't interested in battling the federal government. We like the 2nd. Amendment but so no reason to go to war with them. I want to make something clear.....the majority of us progressives aren't interested in taking over the government and/or running it like a dictatorship. This is evident in the way Obama and rest govern...have governed. We tend to like the balance of powers....We just wished there was compromise. This is also evident in our nominating process. We like ethnic and gender diversity....and we even promote others in charge of certain departments even though they're not in our party......

So if there's a fight to be fought I don't think it will be with our party. Again...many aren't going to go out and equip themselves all paramilitary style because they just don't care about all that. Additionally what you're advocating still isn't enough to combat the world's most powerful and largest military. Heck...the ATF and FBI are time enough for most small factions.....anarchy beyond that you're in for even shorter fight...with about a positive outcome of probability going to the federal government.

I wasn't advocating war with Uncle Sam
Merely attempting to point out our founding fathers understood government can become oppressive and the lack of firearm would render the population helpless.

The common defense is not defense of the government.

That's what the British thought.

They were wrong.