The 2nd Amendment

[LuisDantas]

I think you're wrong. The Wikipedia article on the 2nd Amendment is rather interesting. Take a look at it and let me know if you'd like to reconsider.

I stand corrected. How odd. I really don't think that was a very reasonable interpretation of the Amendment at all.

Granted, I lack the authority to impose my opinion. But I can hardly take such an interpretation seriously. Maybe up until the 1950s. But in the 1990s and later? It is simply weird.

 

[bicker]

Disagreement is fine, but Luis lost sight of...

How convenient that whenever people make points you don't want to reply to that amazingly it was they who did something wrong. Very convenient.

There are 2 types of people:
#1 - Those who anger at disagreement.
#2 - Those who may civilly disagree, & even befriend those of different beliefs.
I prefer to converse with the 1st group.
Would you like to join or be a #2?

I'd rather converse with people who don't make excuses for trying to distract attention away from points they don't like instead of directly replying to them, and people who don't try to unilaterally impose edicts about what aspects of the topic others may raise within the conversation.

How about we all stop talking about the discussion, and restrict our comments solely to something gun-related?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Granted, I lack the authority to impose my opinion. But I can hardly take such an interpretation seriously.

Perhaps because you are extremely ignorant about the country and period in which the 2nd Amendment was fashioned?

 

[LuisDantas]

Perhaps because you are extremely ignorant about the country and period in which the 2nd Amendment was fashioned?

It just might be. I hope it is, since the alternative is to believe that it is the legislator that is failing instead. Not so much by a failure to understand the 18th century as by a failure to understand the late 20th.

I fear not, though.

 

[Revoltingest]

How convenient that whenever people make points you don't want to reply to that amazingly it was they who did something wrong. Very convenient.
I'd rather converse with people who don't make excuses for trying to distract attention away from points they don't like instead of directly replying to them, and people who don't try to unilaterally impose edicts about what aspects of the topic others may raise within the conversation.

Geeze Louise...what well chosen monikers we both have.

 

[bicker]

Ditto.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It just might be. I hope it is, ...

Why not take a few minutes and read this?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I'd rather converse with people who ...

You're the one choosing to converse.

 

[Thief]

Why not take a few minutes and read this?

That item is of length and bears scrutiny.
I will give it more thought.

In the meantime, I would prefer to stand ground with gun in hand.

They have no use, otherwise.

Any law that requires small number magazines....locks keys and safes....limited caliber...
is an infringement.

 

[Revoltingest]

That item is of length and bears scrutiny.
I will give it more thought.
In the meantime, I would prefer to stand ground with gun in hand.
They have no use, otherwise.
Any law that requires small number magazines....locks keys and safes....limited caliber...
is an infringement.

To store my guns in a safe isn't an infringement.
But it's a worthwhile minor inconvenience.
Safes are cheap, easy to use, & safeguard my guns.
But yeah, I see the other restrictions as infringement.

You're the one choosing to converse.

When I find it useful, yes.

 

[Thief]

To store my guns in a safe isn't an infringement.
But it's a worthwhile minor inconvenience.
Safes are cheap, easy to use, & safeguard my guns.
But yeah, I see the other restrictions as infringement.

When you need it the most.....it is needed quickly.

I saw a stat somewhere....
Once the home invasion begins....
control is lost in less than seven seconds.

If you're quick enough....I guess that lock box don't matter!!!!!!!

 

[bicker]

You're the one choosing to converse.

I was just answering the question asked of me. Regardless, one person cannot choose to converse.

 

[Revoltingest]

When you need it the most.....it is needed quickly.
I saw a stat somewhere....
Once the home invasion begins....
control is lost in less than seven seconds.
If you're quick enough....I guess that lock box don't matter!!!!!!!

I use different safes for different guns.
My primary handgun is in a rapid access safe.
But if one is in bed & no inappropriate people are around (eg, young kids), it would be
safe to leave it out on a night stand. This would be secure & rapid access too IMO.

 

[Thief]

I use different safes for different guns.
My primary handgun is in a rapid access safe.
But if one is in bed & no inappropriate people are around (eg, young kids), it would be
safe to leave it out on a night stand. This would be secure & rapid access too IMO.

If it makes you feel better.

I see the infringement as one more tally against the bad guy whent the police kick in the front door.
Oh!...a firearm at the ready!....go to jail.

But when it's the bad guy at your door....too bad for you.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Any law that requires small number magazines....locks keys and safes....limited caliber... is an infringement.

So is the slaughter of children. Some infringements are more warranted than others.

 

[Thief]

So is the slaughter of children. Some infringements are more warranted than others.

If only I had been there to return fire!!!!!!

 

[Kilgore Trout]

If only I had been there to return fire!!!!!!

Indeed - adolescent fantasies are often at the root of irrational resistance to responsible social action.

 

[Revoltingest]

If it makes you feel better.

I feel comfortable either way.
But it makes sense to trade some regulation induced inconvenience (or minimal infringement) for the benefits
of making guns more secure from theft, which ultimately could lead to greater calls for restrictions.

 

[Thief]

Indeed - adolescent fantasies are often at the root of irrational resistance to responsible social action.

Are you backing my response?
Not sure.

 

[Thief]

I feel comfortable either way.
But it makes sense to trade some regulation induced inconvenience (or minimal infringement) for the benefits
of making guns more secure from theft, which ultimately could lead to greater calls for restrictions.

I sold my magnum to my brother who then moved to Texas.
Caught by surprise at his door, he was held at knife point and cuffed to the toilet.
The thiefs took all they could including my old gun.

A lock box is fine if bolted to the floor.

The gun would have been more useful had my brother been more careful at the door.

Now there's a loose weapon registered in my name!

See where this is going?

My brother did.
He now has permit to carry a 9mm.....and does.