Let's face it - you Americans need your guns since you have a lot more bad people that in most other civilised countries. 
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The 2nd Amendment
- Thread starter Fool
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BSM1
What? Me worry?
Let's face it - you Americans need your guns since you have a lot more bad people that in most other civilised countries.
You, sir (or Ma'am) have hit the nail right on the head. You finally get it. I have often said that I would gladly give up my fire arm if it were demonstrably the last one on the pile.
McBell
Unbound
Snipe Hunting
Mr will do
But I think there is some circularity, in that people will likely be just as bad or get worse due to the availability of guns, rather than the opposite.
There's a saying in traffic engineering and urban planning: "you aren't stuck in traffic; you ARE traffic."Let's face it - you Americans need your guns since you have a lot more bad people that in most other civilised countries.
Something similar could probably be said about Americans who arm themselves because of the US's gun problem.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Mr will do
Exactly. You cannot legislate good and evil. As long as there are evil, or potentially evil, people in this world who will harm you, then you need to be able to protect yourself. Sorry. Thus my 'last on the pile' position. Glad to see your finally seeing the light.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Some how I get the feeling that you feel like you can shame some of us into not doing whatever we can to protect our families and ourselves. Good luck, and please see my previous posts. Thank you.
Just because I'm complaining about you doesn't mean I'm trying to persuade you.
I'm mainly venting, but if I could work it so you were simply rendered harmless, that would be fine.
You're completely free to feel hard done-by after your guns are taken away, as long as your guns are taken away.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
"...render harmless..." Wow! And you wonder why some folks feel like they need the ability to defend themselves? Trust me, I am the least of your worries...
ecco
Veteran Member
You SHOOT snipes?!?
That's downright barbaric. It's no wonder they are on the endangered species list.
ecco
Veteran Member
True for us. Not so much for your relatives...
- From 2006-2016, almost 6,885 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings. In 2016 alone, there were 495 incidents of accidental firearm deaths.
- Accidental gun deaths occur mainly in those under 25 years old. In 2014, 2,549 children (age 0-19) died by gunshot and an additional 13,576 were injured.
- Adolescents are particularly susceptible to accidental shootings due to specific behavioral characteristics associated with adolescence, such as impulsivity, feelings of invincibility, and curiosity about firearms.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
You don't want a fire arm, don't get one. Should we look at statistics for accidental drownings (kids and adults) in the family swimming pool? Where's the outrage? Where's the concern?
If I'm the reason why you think you need guns, then you really ought to re-evaluate the clarity of your thinking.
... if parroting the old and ridiculous line about keeping guns to "protect your family" wasn't enough of a sign.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Your statement of rendering me harmless should be a red flag to any one. I have been in the home security business for over 30 years, and I have seen what an intruder can do to you, your family, and your possession in lest than 4 minutes. If you think there is anyone out there that can reach you in time to stop this real harm, then you are the one that is delusional. However, the real advantage to living in a free country is that you can choose to be a victim if you wish. Don't want a fire arm? Good. Don't buy one.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Most people don't have a problem with weapons for home protection/defense. The issue starts when weapons leave the home.
At that point when the public is involved, we leave it up to the firearm owner to be a responsible user. I don't trust random strangers personally.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
More the reason to own a form of personal protection. You're making my point. Thanks.
tytlyf
Not Religious
I own, but the only time anything leaves the house is when going to the range. Some people try to bring firearms everywhere. It's paranoid thinking.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
The delusion is in believing that keeping a gun in the home - and storing it in a way that's quickly accessible - creates a net increase in safety for the people who live in that home.
There are more risks to our well-being than these intruding boogeymen you've fixated on. It's idiotic to bring something into a home that significantly increases the risk that someone in that house will die by domestic abuse, or that will turn a temporary mental health crisis fatal and think that you've improved safety.
It's as ridiculous as thinking that keeping expensive equipment that's useful to criminals - i.e. many firearms - wouldn't ever induce criminals to try to break in and steal it.
Have you ever heard the expression "your right to swing your arms ends at the tip of my nose?" Well, wil firearms, your right to carry one ends as soon as I'm in range.
With proper secure storage, maybe you're only putting your own family and guests at risk, but this isn't a requirement in many places... mainly because of people like you who insist on being able to access their guns quickly with the hope of killing an intruder. An unlocked gun is the business of anyone who might be shot by it after it's stolen... i.e. the entire community.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Of course, with restrictions. As society grows, so should norms. Can't have a free for all.