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The 70 Week/Years of Daniel 9:24-27 (Part One)
- Thread starter Ben Masada
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Poisonshady313
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Daniel 4:10-16 was fulfilled in Daniel 4:25-30.
Daniel has nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus.
Ben Masada
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This is exactly what I call a bunch of empty assumptions without any evidence whatsoever in the Scriptures that Jesus used to handle. That's what happens when a member of a strange religion dares to interpret a prophecy that belongs to another.
Ben Masada
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Really! I would never expect such a reply from someone with such a name of Jesusfreak. I am surprised.
Ben Masada
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I have news for you therefore. I am not among the "most Jews that clearly miss the NT." So, it does not make my logic worthless. I seldom find even a Christian that has what it takes to hold his or her own in a debate with this Jew.
Actually it does. He talks about when christ is enthroned as heavenly King. Which was a coincidence that it happened in the year 1914. Along with the start of WW1. Coincidenace, maybe, but satan was cast out of heaven after hte war with Michael who is the ruler of Jehovahs angels (thus we know he is Jesus as Jesus is the being who is enthroned as heavenly king) and then revelation speaks of woe for the earth as satan is hon it having a short period of time and lots of anger.
Poisonshady313
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Actually, it doesn't.
Gee, that makes perfect sense. After all, how could one doubt such a mighty "thus" as this?
(what a pathetic joke ...)
Just_me_Mike
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Well there is a position that Michael in the book of Revelation, was just a picture of Jesus when he went to the cross, which holds much more weight than what you are suggesting.
The name Michael means one who is like God.
Before the cross, death had a certain hold on the human race. However When Jesus rose, he gave a death blow to Satan, by showing everyone that death is not that bad.
It is suggested that, that is the war that was talked about between Michael and Satan, at the cross, and after that war, Satan was cast down from heaven. Before that event, Satan could go to heaven or Earth.
This explanation makes much more sense, and goes much better with actual scripture.
No, it means: "who is like God?" See Michael.
Just_me_Mike
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Thank you, that is interesting indeed. Still works very well, with the suggestion that Jesus is Michael.
Anyway that is off topic to the thread, but thank you!
It was also symptomatic ...
Just_me_Mike
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yes, wise Jewish man, I get it, I made a mistake
. Just think, you can go through life knowing you helped me out in many ways, despite your view "I am beyond help"Ben Masada
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What a messy! I have just come from another forum, where a Christian tried to prove that Jesus was not Michael but the second person of a Trinitarian God.
arimoff
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common you know it is pointless with them, how can you try to explain something they don't wont to understand?
its like saying I'm an American and when I visit France I have to be treated according to American laws lol.
Daniels prophesy was about me, I believe it was about me, I will be born at the end of days and save you all
.anybody want to try to prove me wrong? Im also created in the image of G-D so im his son also
Ben Masada
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I think the ignorance here is yours, because when I say that Israel exists for over 4000 years, it's only obvious that I am referring to the People who rose from the loins of Jacob, who had his name changed into Israel.
Of course, the Land of Israel exists from the time the Israelites entered it by conquest. Everyone knows this. Anyway, I think 3000 years is quite a number of years too for the Land of Israel.
Ben Masada
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common you know it is pointless with them, how can you try to explain something they don't wont to understand?
its like saying I'm an American and when I visit France I have to be treated according to American laws lol.
Daniels prophesy was about me, I believe it was about me, I will be born at the end of days and save you all
anybody want to try to prove me wrong? Im also created in the image of G-D so im his son also
Well, Exodus 4:22,23 - "Israel is My son. Let My son go, that he may serve me." Now, your last statement is acknowledged by the Scriptures.
arimoff
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well yes, that is how it was always meant to be understood, but it doesn't make me a G-D. some people take it to seriously to the point where man becomes a G-D.
Ben Masada
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Now, let us try Isaiah 7:14, 15, 22; 8:8. If you read those verses in that sequence, you will see that Isaiah identifies Judah, the Jewish People with Immanuel, which means "God with us". "Us" here means the Gentiles. Why? Becuse when Israel, the Ten Tribes, was removed from existence in a permanent exile, Judah remained as Immanuel, according to God's promise to David in I Kings 11:36. Nu! How about now, doesn't it make of the Jewish People gods to the Gentiles?