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The Antichrist Thread

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think the scriptures indicate that those who lived before the time of Christ or never heard of Christ will be judged by the information they do understand or how they follow the conscience God had given each person concerning right or wrong and an awareness of a Creator.


For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
Romans 2:12-16

That's not consistent with what you said as it's a reference to those following the Jewish Commandments thus not peoples before Jesus or living in different areas. However, I agree that there likely was some provision for those not aware of the Gospels, but what that is I don't know as it's never explained.

But either way, if believing in Jesus as a Messiah was so vitally important to all, then why were most of the peoples in the world not made aware of that? IMO, there is no answer to that is implicit in scripture. Thus, I tend to believe that those not exposed to the Gospels may be judged on maybe their basic demeanor or something like that. But then, what do I know?
 

InChrist

Free4ever
That's not consistent with what you said as it's a reference to those following the Jewish Commandments thus not peoples before Jesus or living in different areas. However, I agree that there likely was some provision for those not aware of the Gospels, but what that is I don't know as it's never explained.

But either way, if believing in Jesus as a Messiah was so vitally important to all, then why were most of the peoples in the world not made aware of that? IMO, there is no answer to that is implicit in scripture. Thus, I tend to believe that those not exposed to the Gospels may be judged on maybe their basic demeanor or something like that. But then, what do I know?
I think it’s consistent because where it says…” For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law”, I believe is referring to non-Jews in various areas or times in history who never had, nor knew the commandments, had no awareness of the prophecies concerning the Messiah/Savior whom Jesus claimed to be. Yet, they had/have their God given conscience of right and wrong, truth and falsehood.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
A place where you can share why you think Jesus isn’t the savior. Let me start by saying I don’t think Jesus is the savior because I believe the “savior” is alive in the flesh on earth at this present moment.
By labeling this thread the anti-Christ thread, you are insulting everyone who posts here, including me.
 

Sumadji

Active Member
Yes just gone until he dies and you ultimately get to live again
Could this person return in the oast as a stone age mammoth hunter to bring the universe back into existence to a time before you came into existence? When the world hunan population was small? Would you then never come into existence?

What about the billions of people born after that, by population increase, until the 21st century?
 
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Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Could this person return as a stone age mammoth hunter to bring the universe back into existence to a time before you came into existence? When the world hunan population was small? Would you then never come into existence?

What about the billions of people born after that, by population increase, until the 21st century?
This man was born in the 20th century and will die in the 21st.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Could this person return in the oast as a stone age mammoth hunter to bring the universe back into existence to a time before you came into existence? When the world hunan population was small? Would you then never come into existence?

What about the billions of people born after that, by population increase, until the 21st century?
You’ve asked many questions about my beliefs. You seem very interested in my beliefs. Do you believe what I believe?
 

Sumadji

Active Member
You’ve asked many questions about my beliefs. You seem very interested in my beliefs. Do you believe what I believe?
Just interested. This person always returns to the planet earth, as a human being. So within that it can be any scenario. Ok: it can be anything. So I'm interested in the population numbers, now and in the past and in the future?

There are around 8 billion people living today -- increased from around 4 billion since around 1979.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Just interested. This person always returns to the planet earth, as a human being. So within that it can be any scenario. Ok: it can be anything. So I'm interested in the population numbers, now and in the past and in the future?

There are around 8 billion people living today -- increased from around 4 billion since around 1979.
He lives the same life over and over from 1979 to whenever he dies. As far as population goes, it’s always increasing.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Just interested. This person always returns to the planet earth, as a human being. So within that it can be any scenario. Ok: it can be anything. So I'm interested in the population numbers, now and in the past and in the future?

There are around 8 billion people living today -- increased from around 4 billion since around 1979.
So what do you think of my belief? Do you think it has any merit? Or do you think it’s hogwash?
 
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