The Apostle Paul was the anti-christ according to the first Christians

[Shuttlecraft]

..Israelites were factually never in Egypt :slap:

You gotta be jivin us boy..
Who do you think Moses led out of Egypt, the Munchkins?
Below- Moses in action killing an Egyptian slave-driver (Exodus 2:11), triggering the great escape-

"Eat this Jack!"

 

[outhouse]

Dale Martin? He's your teacher?

(Udo Schnelle uses those exact words in his book Paul)

One of many, but not a real teacher per say, But I do learn from him. I just watch all his Yale NT lectures on YT. Which has been a wealth of information.

Been exchanging a few messages with Candida as well and Anthony Le Donne. Was going to take his class but price was to high.


Was debating with Doherty but he hasn't been online in a few years, I handed it to him a few times were he could not answer and bailed. Peter Kirby is great all though I don't follow his view, but his site is a wealth of information and he is pretty good guy. Debating with Neil Godfrey as well which I don't follow but he seems to be very reasonable in person.

Stephan Huller is a crack up and way out there, but his knowledge on church fathers is supreme. He throws imagination against the wall and then chases it down to see how much sticks.

 

[savagewind]

Im sorry you don't have a clue about what really happened.

According to The Oxford Companion to World Mythology,


It seems almost certain that the God of the Jews evolved gradually from the Canaanite El, who was in all likelihood the 'God of Abraham'...


What is certain is that the form ’El does appear in Israelite names from every period including the name Yiśrā’ēl ("Israel"), meaning "El strives" or "struggled with El".


Israelites were factually never in Egypt :slap:

Then in the 1990s a school of thought emerged from the background of the 1970s and 1980s which held that the entire enterprise of studying ancient Israel and its history was seriously flawed by an over-reliance on the biblical text, which was too problematic (meaning untrustworthy) to be used even selectively as a source for Israel's past, and that Israel itself was in any case itself a problematic subject. This movement came to be known as biblical minimalism.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Minimalism

After 100 years of oganized search and recovery one school of thought has rejected hundred's of years of the Biblical narrative because they came up short.

Wise? I don't think so. Educated though! Pat, pat.

 

[Robert.Evans]

You don't speak my language.

I don't see you say anything yet. All you seem to say is that you know a lot, but don't tell anyone anything. I think you should remove your signature... it sounds too much like you. Why cannot you just say your argument?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Nobody disputed authorship because the Gospels were anonymous. The names of the authors came later when scribes added it to the top of the pages. By the time this happened, the names of the original authors were long forgotten.

Not according to Theiring they were not

 

[Robert.Evans]

Dang, you know me better than I know myself.

Add to this - the dissertation was picked up by a leading publisher in his field and published in 2014.

It took me a year to revise it and another year to work its way through peer review.

I teach New Testament, and I'm on faculty at two universities and I'm hoping to add two more this year.

You don't teach it here

 

[Robert.Evans]

Factually only man wrote all these words, of which many had to copy others work.

It would not have all the errors if it was some guy in the sky

:biglaugh: Your comment 'some guy in the sky' shows your ignorance on this subject... as if we did not already know

 

[Robert.Evans]

If you were not blind here and ignorant of history

You would know that scholars only know so much and after that it becomes opinion on what may have happened.


Once you get to a certain level you find mutual respect in your fellow colleagues differences.

:slap: If you would only believe the writings you say are not real, you would know they are spiritually discerned. So your comments are vain as normal

 

[Robert.Evans]

Again your blind.


El was the first god of, Is ra El

I can agree with that, though El is also Yhvh... for they are one. It is the Name.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I don't see you say anything yet. All you seem to say is that you know a lot, but don't tell anyone anything. I think you should remove your signature... it sounds too much like you. Why cannot you just say your argument?

Like I said...

 

[Robert.Evans]

Im sorry you don't have a clue about what really happened.

According to The Oxford Companion to World Mythology,


It seems almost certain that the God of the Jews evolved gradually from the Canaanite El, who was in all likelihood the 'God of Abraham'...


What is certain is that the form ’El does appear in Israelite names from every period including the name Yiśrā’ēl ("Israel"), meaning "El strives" or "struggled with El".





Israelites were factually never in Egypt

:slap: That depends on who you speak of. And i am guessing that you have got it wrong

 

[Nada]

I can agree with that, though El is also Yhvh... for they are one. It is the Name.

YHVH= Yehovah,Jehovah

 

[angellous_evangellous]

You gotta be jivin us boy..
Who do you think Moses led out of Egypt, the Munchkins?
Below- Moses in action killing an Egyptian slave-driver (Exodus 2:11), triggering the great escape-

"Eat this Jack!"

Why use a picture when film of the life of Moses has been discovered?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCTq3EeDcY

 

[Robert.Evans]

One of many, but not a real teacher per say, But I do learn from him. I just watch all his Yale NT lectures on YT. Which has been a wealth of information.

Been exchanging a few messages with Candida as well and Anthony Le Donne. Was going to take his class but price was to high.


Was debating with Doherty but he hasn't been online in a few years, I handed it to him a few times were he could not answer and bailed. Peter Kirby is great all though I don't follow his view, but his site is a wealth of information and he is pretty good guy. Debating with Neil Godfrey as well which I don't follow but he seems to be very reasonable in person.

Stephan Huller is a crack up and way out there, but his knowledge on church fathers is supreme. He throws imagination against the wall and then chases it down to see how much sticks.

where is the wise man, where is the scholar, God has made fools of them all. That is scripture also you know.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

:slap: That depends on who you speak of. And i am guessing that you have got it wrong

We need to start a debate about the consistency of BS so you can participate fully.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Biblical Minimalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After 100 years of oganized search and recovery one school of thought has rejected hundred's of years of the Biblical narrative because they came up short.

Wise? I don't think so. Educated though! Pat, pat.

I like... haha. Early Yisrael is Africa. See 'Baldik.'

 

[angellous_evangellous]

where is the wise man, where is the scholar, God has made fools of them all. That is scripture also you know.

You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

where is the wise man, where is the scholar, God has made fools of them all. That is scripture also you know.

This doesn't mean that Paul begs us not to understand the text, tossing out every tool available to us.

Quoting the Bible stupidly does no one any good. Especially you, if you fear the Lord.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I like... haha. Early Yisrael is Africa. See 'Baldik.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HacXlrw01zE

 

[outhouse]

Biblical Minimalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After 100 years of oganized search and recovery one school of thought has rejected hundred's of years of the Biblical narrative because they came up short.

Wise? I don't think so. Educated though! Pat, pat.

Can you make a tie between minimalism and what I posted?