The Atheist is wasting his life

[dwdw2400]

The natural inclination for religious faith is an integral part of the human essence. This is an indisputable fact of history. All scholars of comparative religion, regardless of their own religious backgrounds, agree that religious belief is a natural human condition. They differ, however about its origins.

Prophets were sent, to every nation and tribe to support man's natural belief in Allah and man's inborn inclination to worship Him as well as to reinforce the divine truth in the daily signs revealed by Allah. Although, in most cases, much of the prophets' teachings became distorted, portions remained which point out right and wrong. Consequently, every soul will be held to account for its belief in Allah and its acceptance of the religion.

On the other hand, it is the Atheist who is wasting his life. His life has no purpose but temporary enjoyment. But such enjoyment is always tempered by nagging doubts about whether or not life is heading in the right direction. It is the believer who lives in quiet confidence that God's promise is true.

 

[DeitySlayer]

My desire to believe cannot overcome my ability to reason.

I hugely disagree with the opening sentences of your post. All children are born atheist. It is the family or culture which they are brought up with which imprints on their life and gives them a religious 'direction'.

 

[Reptillian]

Confucius once observed that there are only two types of men who can't be changed, the profoundly wise, and the profoundly foolish. Whenever I meet someone, or encounter a religion, that claims to have found absolute truth, I always ask myself whether their behavior is indicative of extreme wisdom or extreme idiocy. Lets just say that I have yet to find a religion that seems to have completely found truth. The purpose of my life is to find truth and discover what it means to be a virtuous person. If there is truth to your, or to any, religion, then have no worries because I will someday encounter that truth.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

 

[The Neo Nerd]

My desire to believe cannot overcome my ability to reason.

Very well said.

-Q

 

[dwdw2400]

If what you wrote is valid, why Islam still remain the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.

After the tragic attack on 9/11 and the war on terrorism, war on Islam in most media, Millions of people read Koran (Quran) in the Internet and visited Islamic sites.

Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times

Islam Attracts Converts by the Thousand, Drawn Before and After Attacks
By JODI WILGOREN Source: The New York Times

Famous people are affected too:

Singer "Cat Stevens" Oh, baby, baby it's a wild world

Michael Jackson Confirms Conversion to Islam

Check in the net.

 

[DeitySlayer]

Arguing from numbers screws you over.

Here are two 'things' rising in numbers of 'believers':

a) Evolution
b) Atheism

Atheism is rising faster than all religions put together, mind you.

Numbers of believers is also completely irrelevant. Go back 4,000 years and nearly everyone would tell you the Earth was flat. Does that make it true? Nope.

Truth it truth even if no-one believes it, a lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it.

 

[BucephalusBB]

If what you wrote is valid, why Islam still remain the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.

After the tragic attack on 9/11 and the war on terrorism, war on Islam in most media, Millions of people read Koran (Quran) in the Internet and visited Islamic sites.

Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times

Islam Attracts Converts by the Thousand, Drawn Before and After Attacks
By JODI WILGOREN Source: The New York Times

Famous people are affected too:

Singer "Cat Stevens" Oh, baby, baby it's a wild world

Michael Jackson Confirms Conversion to Islam

Check in the net.

So how does this relate to your own opening post?

 

[Kerr]

The natural inclination for religious faith is an integral part of the human essence. This is an indisputable fact of history. All scholars of comparative religion, regardless of their own religious backgrounds, agree that religious belief is a natural human condition. They differ, however about its origins.

Prophets were sent, to every nation and tribe to support man's natural belief in Allah and man's inborn inclination to worship Him as well as to reinforce the divine truth in the daily signs revealed by Allah. Although, in most cases, much of the prophets' teachings became distorted, portions remained which point out right and wrong. Consequently, every soul will be held to account for its belief in Allah and its acceptance of the religion.

On the other hand, it is the Atheist who is wasting his life. His life has no purpose but temporary enjoyment. But such enjoyment is always tempered by nagging doubts about whether or not life is heading in the right direction. It is the believer who lives in quiet confidence that God's promise is true.

You clearly do not know much about atheists. Atheism itself is about the belief in gods, not about how life should be lived. On that level you can find anything from people who only live for temporary pleasure to people who are more far sighted then that. Atheism is not a big deal and it doesn´t really tell anything about the person in question. So why do you try and read more into it then there is?

 

[DeitySlayer]

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot to mention: all Buddhists are atheist as well. Are you saying the Dalai Lama is, and I quote, "wasting his life. His life has no purpose but temporary enjoyment. But such enjoyment is always tempered by nagging doubts about whether or not life is heading in the right direction."

 

[Reptillian]

If what you wrote is valid, why Islam still remain the fastest-growing religion in America and in the world although religion is no longer dominates everyday life in Western society.

After the tragic attack on 9/11 and the war on terrorism, war on Islam in most media, Millions of people read Koran (Quran) in the Internet and visited Islamic sites.

Islam is the fastest-growing religion in America, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..." Hillary Rodman Clinton, Los Angeles Times

Islam Attracts Converts by the Thousand, Drawn Before and After Attacks
By JODI WILGOREN Source: The New York Times

Famous people are affected too:

Singer "Cat Stevens" Oh, baby, baby it's a wild world

Michael Jackson Confirms Conversion to Islam

Check in the net.

I wouldn't consider Hilary Clinton, "Cat" Stevens, and Micheal Jackson to be profoundly wise people. If the Dalai Lama converts to Islam, then maybe there might be something to it... Don't get me wrong, I don't think there is no truth in Islam or other religions...I think there is just enough truth for religious leaders to manipulate and abuse their followers for their own personal gain. The secret is to look at every religion and find the good stuff while rejecting the random junk that people tack on.

 

[dwdw2400]

Ok, I will come back to the point, I mean any atheists, in their endeavor try to find alternatives to God for explaining the existence of the temporal things we see around us, invent some imaginary entities and give them some of the essential attributes of God.
They say in a misleading way that they believe in God; but on inspection, their god turns out to be the god of the atheists. I am referring here to people like Einstein, who is said by some to have been a believer, but whose god was in fact not God the Creator in whom we all believe. Einstein declared that he believed in “Spinoza’s god,” i.e. in a god that is identical with the universe, and who does not thus interfere from outside in its working. “The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation, “says Einstein, “cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events.” [Quoted by Hans Kung, Does God Exist? Vantage Books, 1981, p. 629]

Being rational means being a moral thinker.
Being a moral thinker means believing in God.
Only the irrational disbelieve.
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God.

 

[Revoltingest]

....it is the Atheist who is wasting his life. His life has no purpose but temporary enjoyment. But such enjoyment is always tempered by nagging doubts about whether or not life is heading in the right direction. It is the believer who lives in quiet confidence that God's promise is true.

To waste one's life or not is judgment call which we each make. Since I don't feel like I'm wasting my life, I have no problems with the idea.
Yeah, permanence would be better than the ephemeral, but I can't change it, so I cope with what there is. You have "quiet confidence"....I
have quiet ignorance. It seems that our individual paths suit us.

Being rational means being a moral thinker.
Being a moral thinker means believing in God.
Only the irrational disbelieve.

These are unfounded premises. Certainly, misanthropes can be rational....the problems lies in their values & the danger they pose.

Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God.

You trust a guy whose name is a cured meat?

 

[Kerr]

Ok, I will come back to the point, I mean any atheists, in their endeavor try to find alternatives to God for explaining the existence of the temporal things we see around us, invent some imaginary entities and give them some of the essential attributes of God.
They say in a misleading way that they believe in God; but on inspection, their god turns out to be the god of the atheists. I am referring here to people like Einstein, who is said by some to have been a believer, but whose god was in fact not God the Creator in whom we all believe. Einstein declared that he believed in “Spinoza’s god,” i.e. in a god that is identical with the universe, and who does not thus interfere from outside in its working. “The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation, “says Einstein, “cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events.” [Quoted by Hans Kung, Does God Exist? Vantage Books, 1981, p. 629]

Being rational means being a moral thinker.
Being a moral thinker means believing in God.
Only the irrational disbelieve.
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God.

The thing about Einstein sounds like pantheism, not atheism. And really, you are simplifing things. There are many rational, moral people who are atheists, and there are many irrational, immoral people are believes in God.

 

[TEXASBULL]

Being rational means being a moral thinker.
Being a moral thinker means believing in God.
Only the irrational disbelieve.

Every moral thinker believes is God? That is irrational and I disbelieve it!

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Ok, I will come back to the point, I mean any atheists, in their endeavor try to find alternatives to God for explaining the existence of the temporal things we see around us, invent some imaginary entities and give them some of the essential attributes of God.
They say in a misleading way that they believe in God; but on inspection, their god turns out to be the god of the atheists. I am referring here to people like Einstein, who is said by some to have been a believer, but whose god was in fact not God the Creator in whom we all believe. Einstein declared that he believed in “Spinoza’s god,” i.e. in a god that is identical with the universe, and who does not thus interfere from outside in its working. “The man who is thoroughly convinced of the universal operation of the law of causation, “says Einstein, “cannot for a moment entertain the idea of a being who interferes in the course of events.” [Quoted by Hans Kung, Does God Exist? Vantage Books, 1981, p. 629]

Being rational means being a moral thinker.
Being a moral thinker means believing in God.
Only the irrational disbelieve.
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God.

I've found that the terms "God" and "Atheist" can be more complex than simply a Creator and his Unbelieving Creation.

 

[Noaidi]

The natural inclination for religious faith is an integral part of the human essence. This is an indisputable fact of history. All scholars of comparative religion, regardless of their own religious backgrounds, agree that religious belief is a natural human condition.

I disagree with your first sentence. Religion per se is not a natural human inclination. We are not born with a yearning to be a christian or a muslim. It may be a natural inclination to seek explanations and patterns in the world, but that is not religion. Religion is the tag we have stuck onto that inclination, along with associated stories, myths, regulations etc.

 

[LuisDantas]

Actually, dwdw, it is the realization that there is no God that makes morality appealing. To me, at least.

You have a serious difficulty at understanding Atheism.

 

[Eliot Wild]

Prophets were sent, to every nation and tribe to support man's natural belief in Allah and man's inborn inclination to worship Him as well as to reinforce the divine truth in the daily signs revealed by Allah. Although, in most cases, much of the prophets' teachings became distorted, portions remained which point out right and wrong. Consequently, every soul will be held to account for its belief in Allah and its acceptance of the religion..

Why doesn't Allah do this work himself? Is he too lazy? Or perhaps he is an incompetent deity? Why does he need human prophets to carry his word around? And if Allah is so dang all-powerful, how was it that his message got distorted? What kind of deity allows mortal human weaklings to screw up His divine message?

Your God sounds like a lazy, incompetent boob to me. But hey, no disrespect intended. Just like your comments indicating that atheists are 'wasting their lives', I'm just stating my unfiltered opinion on the matter, not trying to be inflammatory or provocative in any way.

On the other hand, it is the Atheist who is wasting his life. His life has no purpose but temporary enjoyment. But such enjoyment is always tempered by nagging doubts about whether or not life is heading in the right direction. It is the believer who lives in quiet confidence that God's promise is true.

And with sound Islamic reasoning like the above, I am surprised everyone isn't rushing out to convert. It is unblemished rationality like the above, void of any presumptious, pre-judgmental and inciteful rhetoric, that makes me curious to hear more about this bumbling god of yours who somehow let us non-omnipotent creatures distort his divine eternal message. He sounds like loads of fun and lots of laughs.

 

[YmirGF]

The natural inclination for religious faith is an integral part of the human essence.

Nice assumption you've got going there, Sparky.

This is an indisputable fact of history.

Is it now. I wasn't aware of that.

All scholars of comparative religion, regardless of their own religious backgrounds, agree that religious belief is a natural human condition. They differ, however about its origins.

Except, of course, those who do not agree.

Prophets were sent, to every nation and tribe to support man's natural belief in Allah and man's inborn inclination to worship Him as well as to reinforce the divine truth in the daily signs revealed by Allah. Although, in most cases, much of the prophets' teachings became distorted, portions remained which point out right and wrong. Consequently, every soul will be held to account for its belief in Allah and its acceptance of the religion.

And your proof supporting this amusing notion is?

On the other hand, it is the Atheist who is wasting his life. His life has no purpose but temporary enjoyment. But such enjoyment is always tempered by nagging doubts about whether or not life is heading in the right direction. It is the believer who lives in quiet confidence that God's promise is true.

Personally, I feel it is far superior to have doubt than it is to sit there smugly pretending you have all the answers. You don't.

 

[Revoltingest]

Eliot, you wild man...tsk, tsk. Where are your manners towards simpletons
from backwards cultures with primitive beliefs? Show some tolerance, man!

The fundies should never be dissed.
(We know what they do when they're pi****d.)
Certainly, we
just disagree
'bout things which don't even exist.

Also, their deity (noting that the accent is on the 2nd syllable in "Allah") is not some trained animal performer who
makes himself available to your court of judgement upon command. (He works in mysterious ways, you know.)

The thread is about mankind's purpose.
Allah's no mere thing like a porpoise,
It shan't be commanded
that he be remanded
as though you have habeas corpus.