Thief
Rogue Theologian
only denial to those who deny a Greater Life
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The battle of evolution vs creationism
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gnostic
The Lost One
Perhaps, because there are "no God".
Have you ever thought, that maybe, just maybe that God is not real?
Right, you are, there are no fingerprints of God, but there have no evidences of God ever existing, other than what are written by these so-called "prophet" or so-called "apostle", who apparently believe in his existence, despite never seeing him.
That's called "faith"...and a blind one at that...and superstition. Such books (scriptures) relying on faith alone, clearly aren't reliable sources.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and you need to hear that science would have you believe...
substance is not self motivating
'Something' had to set the universe in motion
and that garden event has a lot of science under the terms given
gnostic
The Lost One
A "Greater Life" to what exactly?
A so-called promise of afterlife, or to live forever?
It is a pipe-dream, based on nothing more than hear-say of some unrealistic utopia.
Sorry, but I don't find heaven to be at all appealing. And I don't want immortality or to live forever, and I don't find it any more attractive than hell.
Only a fool would fear "God and heaven", don't you see?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
oh well......
Thief
Rogue Theologian
it's not about fear
What is it about, then?
gnostic
The Lost One
I am not looking for "belief" in science.
Belief is useless in science. Science is about understanding nature or understanding technology.
Science is merely a tool.
About 20 years ago, I was a civil engineer. Science allow for me to build better buildings, better roads or better bridges. It helps me to do my work.
Science is not a belief system, not unless you talking about philosophy of science.
Philosophies might have some merits or values, but they are nothing more than just talk. Philosophy focused mostly on the WHY and even on the WHO.
And religion is even more useless than philosophy. It is mainly focused on the WHO, like God, and if you are a Christian, on Jesus.
Can God or Jesus design, build or test a bridge for me?
Praying certainly won't help me to design or build the bridge.
Actual science is about acquiring knowledge, acquiring data, testing or finding evidences, so that we ca make better decision on any project. Unlike philosophy, science focused on WHAT and the HOW questions.
Science is about WHAT it is, WHAT can be done, and HOW to do it.
It just think it is plain stupid for anyone to mix religion and science together, because they are nothing alike.
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gnostic
The Lost One
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
Man was formed to in turn form spirit
each occasion the body produces a unique person
the will to live will in turn bring you to your greatest desire....
in the hour of your last breath
you will desire to stand up
I suggest you go for it
and hopefully you will have made some consideration what happens shortly after
God and heaven will come to see....what stands from the dust
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I concur for the most part.....
and I believe in God because of science
science will lead you to that 'point' of decision
it will not make the choice for you
Not to be blunt, but that is what you believe (I assume). And that is all.
I have no reason to worry.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
assumption is a tool...like any other cognitive device.
my side of the fence.....'assumes' .....a God
I do so for science
your side of the fence ....assumes ....otherwise
and I have only one worry
will I fit in to the scheme of peace in heaven
apparently....you're not going
Apparently.
That is not my way, though.
Thanks for the laugh.
If it takes that for "going there", then it will be all right.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
hmmmm.......laughing all the way to the grave....
well....if that be your way......
Hopefully, that will be my way.
I do not fear death. And I definitely do not fear what will happen to me after my death.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
Not far as I am concerned. I would not say it has not to do with your view of it.
Then again, I can't claim to understand your view of it.