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the Beast Within

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
there seems some population here at the forum......insisting
Man is an animal

and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?
and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?
The face of animal. The face of an animal very logical and highly emotional, a face that looks young for its years, a face with strawberry-blonde hair, a well pierced faced, the face of an animal that, let's be honest, an animal face on an animal head I would have lost a long time ago if it wasn't attached to the rest me. I do see a human being, and that does seem a profound thing as we have truly done things no other animal has or necessarily even can. But I can't deny the beast inside.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
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When I look in trying to see past the physical....
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
there seems some population here at the forum......insisting
Man is an animal

and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?

Jesus was the son of Mary and God, so he was only half human.

DNA shows that we humans are definitely descended from bonobo monkeys. We are not compatible to breed with them, since we are missing a chromosome. But, DNA analysis clearly proves that two of the chromosomes of a monkey fused together to form just one chromosome of a human.

Clearly, DNA evidence proves evolution. Even a couple of modern popes agree that the evidence is overwhelming. DNA evidence is good enough to stand up in court as proof.

Evolution and the Catholic Church - Wikipedia

Link above: "On October 27, 2014, Pope Francis issued a statement at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences that "Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation," warning against thinking of God's act of creation as "God [being] a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.""

Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician with a magic wand'

Link above: "Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not a magician with a wand."

The Vatican's View of Evolution: Pope Paul II and Pope Pius

When I look at a chimp or gorilla, I see human-like expression, hands like ours, and know that they are distant cousins.

Viruses (such as flu or COVID) mutate, and that is why we need new vaccines every year for the flu. That proves evolution. Apparently, it is easier for smaller, less complex, organisms to mutate (evolve).

All life is related, as DNA proves.

Christians should not lie, and it would be a lie to deny evolution. There is still room to believe that God has guided evolution.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
there seems some population here at the forum......insisting
Man is an animal

and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?


Never mind mirrors, look at the DNA

Humans are 100% animal.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
So what's your take on this?

What motivated to the serpent in the story? Why con Eve? Where's the upside?

Who knows what sort of, lets say political intrigues were going on in heaven to make Satan think that it would be a good thing for him to lie to Eve.
It certainly was a wrong move by Satan and sealed his fate.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Who knows what sort of, lets say political intrigues were going on in heaven to make Satan think that it would be a good thing for him to lie to Eve.
It certainly was a wrong move by Satan and sealed his fate.

Technically the serpent didn't lie to Eve.

1. Eve didn't die by eating the fruit. Nowhere is her death recorded. We do not know when she died.

2. Satan was right that by eating the fruit, Eve would be like God, knowing good and evil. Even God agreed, which is why he stopped them from eating from the tree of life.

God punished Satan for revealing the truth.

So says the devils advocate... :smilingimp:
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Is it only the religious who are bothered about our past, and present? We should all rejoice in having so many relatives, even if far removed, and we would be better as a species if we did so. :oops:
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
We live and die much like everything else. We aint that special. We aint that superior. Arrogance is a most unbecoming trait.

I'm fine with being an animal; in fact, I definitely prefer it.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
there seems some population here at the forum......insisting
Man is an animal

and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?
A mature male example of the species modern Homo sapiens sapiens, a variety of animal.

What do you see?
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
there seems some population here at the forum......insisting
Man is an animal

and when you look into the mirror.......what do you see?

When I look in the mirror I see a beast and not an animal. An animal operates under natural instinct; tree of life, while a beast is an animal, who has been biased, unnaturally, by knowledge of good and evil; tree of knowledge of good and evil.

For example, an animal will relieve their bowels, if they need to go, where they stand. This is natural. A beast is taught to avoid this natural urge, and use learned social customs; carrot and stick, to do a parallel behavior. The animal follows an inner voice, while the beast is often the product of an outer voice.

In fairly tales, talking animals should be considered beasts and not animals, since they are not talking, naturally, in the tongue of their native species. Rather they speak in an unnatural way for that animal. This usually means that this animal/beast is a symbol associated with humans or a human. The base of this new behavior is grounded in natural animal brain firmware, but this firmware has been modified by the ego; ego and cultural super ego, to become higher or lower than the animals. Animal fight for survival, while human beasts can show mercy in a fight, or become cruel enough to torture.

Humans have two centers of consciousness, which are the ego and inner self. The inner self is as old as evolution of consciousness and DNA. While the ego is new and appeared around the time of the rise of civilization; Adam and Eve. Civilization created a new unnatural environment for the human animal, who then becomes a beast, which helps to evolve the fledgling ego. The ego learns to make choices apart from the inner self and natural instinct to form the beast. The hunter eats the flesh of the lion and wears his skin to make his human animal more invincible as the lion-man beast.

Animals only have an inner self. The natural human animal within would be connected to the inner self of humans. The ego is what modifies the inner animal program, with learned social behavior; will and choice, outside of natural human instinct. This creates the beast. The animal eats based on food availability, while the beast will fast or become a glutton at any food availability.

One interesting exception are some domesticated animals like dogs and horses to name a few. A dog can be induced to have a virtual ego center. For example, the little poodle dog may be treated like a baby by the owner. The dog will figure out what is expected, via interaction with the owner, and can form a virtual ego. Now the dog becomes spoiled and demanding like a human child to meet owner expectations. The dog can become a virtual beast, based on the ego conditioning by the owner. Often animals/beasts in fairy tales are the product of something natural, having been modified into a beast by the ego.
 
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