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The Bible and aliens

Shuttlecraft

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We don't know where God is, or where Jesus came from, it could be on the far side of the universe, or even in another universe..
Jesus said-"I know where I came from and where I am going, but you have no idea where I come from or where I am going....you are of this world, I'm not of this world" (John 8:14/ 8:23, Matt 13:35)

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robocop (actually)

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Robocop, it sounds like your committed to the belief that Man was created by extra-terrestrials, or terrestrials. It's still to foreign to me to accept, although I find it interesting.

I don't know what to make of it personally. To let Man suffer through eons making civilizations, war, genocide. It's overwhelming to think such technology was kept away from Man, even though Mankind may have been assisted, it just makes creation seem even more cruel. I'm not one to totally question the agenda of "God" though.

Pre-modern man civilization is interesting as well. Prior to modern Man were there civilizations of non-humanbeings?

The violence in the world is really just us. We are to blame. Wisdom must catch up to technology, or we can’t make it, not with more E.T. help that they would be willing to grant if they are good, and not with less E.T. intervention if they are bad.

As per slaves in ancient times, Genesis 1:24 describes cattle, creeping things, and beasts. These beasts were somewhere along the ape-human line. I haven’t finished the Third Chimpanzee by Jared Diamond, but my hope is that these slaves weren’t along the consciousness/ intelligence lines enough to suffer.

When we were created our planet had less gravity so we could be taller. That’s why, say, on the Sistine Chapel, the angel/cherubims look like kids (they are smaller than us but not kids). So we had more brain capacity and in Genesis 1:26 they made us smarter than themselves. The creators loved this, but those on their home planet worried.

Then there was the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, or science in the French Bible (genesis 2:17). We became too powerful so they tried to wipe us out with the flood. Yes, I know Jeremiah Sitchin says that happened naturally. After wiping us out and learning of Noah, they those on the home planet decided they just wanted to control us, because man wants to be scientific. (Genesis 8:21) Later they would start an experiment where they would have prophets hint at things to carry proof of themselves later on and help us safely but slowly progress. It’s like an insect; at each level of technology you grow it in before you can progress, and that is the only way you can survive.

After the flood, there was almost no violence perpetrated by E.T.s. They just wanted to gradually let us grow until we loved them and ourselves. Yes, at the beginning of Exodus, they freed the Hebrews from Pharaoh. They had to. The Hebrews were to live together since they were the smartest and therefore the most valuable to keep around. At the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:9) Jews were separated and at Sodom and Gomorrah got nuked (Genesis 19:24,26,28) (but everyone in the cities were warned to flee and flee quickly Genesis 19:12,13,17). In Jericho the Israelites didn’t know what they were doing, I think. In subsequent wars, the defenders could flee. For instance, when it rained down stuff from the sky in Joshua 10, the defenders could look up and avoid it, I think. In the last war, I think, they could have simply ran away. This war is also in Joshua 10. The Jews had to be protected. There was also colonization, or getting sacrifices of some things, but it was in return for protection. But eventually, Yahweh laid off of humanity.


The beast in Revelations 13:8 is nuclear power for murderous purposes. It is the number of man, 666 generations from the first man, when man finally had his life in his own hands. Revelations 16:8,20, and 21 confirm this. In revelations all the problems are caused by our own humanity!

Diseases, I guess, were either not in the creators' control, or they helped us gain technology and love in order to fight them.
Buddhism suggests that as a society, we climb but sometimes fall down and we need to climb.

The violence in the world, then, is really just us. We are to blame. Wisdom must catch up to technology, or we can’t make it, not with more E.T. help that they would be willing to grant, and not with less E.T. intervention. Religions also can reveal technology in their text texture.

Also, as a word of caution, different things in different sizes can be somewhat alive.
 
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robocop (actually)

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ShuttleCraft,

I see you like "Stargate" and Christianity. Epic! Nice comparisons.

I remember watching the space warp and my friends and I thought it was the coolest thing in the world.
 
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Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Robocop, man, I appreciate your content but you sound insane as ****. I sound insane, perhaps I am insane, but I am. Cheers.
 

robocop (actually)

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TD, OK we're both insane. Shh! I took the time to understand your posts. I spent a lot of time and energy on proofreading and referencing my own. Will you please go after the message instead of the messenger? Saying I'm insane does not lead to a positive discussion. I would like my work to be critiqued by my religiousforums peers. I can elaborate a lot of this stuff when necessary.

I meant the original Star Gate movie.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
TD, OK we're both insane. Shh! I took the time to understand your posts. I spent a lot of time and energy on proofreading and referencing my own. Will you please go after the message instead of the messenger? Saying I'm insane does not lead to a positive discussion. I would like my work to be critiqued by my religiousforums peers. I can elaborate a lot of this stuff when necessary.

I meant the original Star Gate movie.

Outstanding, please don't take it personally. I frequently forget the difficulty in
perceiving sarcasm in context, trolling as well is a constant behavioral problem of mine.
I didn't deliberately mean to be insulting or attack you, just thought it was funny.

But if God or Christ does turn up eons afterwards in a space ship perhaps you can have a
nervous breakdown with me and maybe cry a little. But if it were Odin that would be totally
bad ***, then we could make with the space wiking, hopefully. Then I want a space ship.

But anyway, god forbid you sound ******* intelligent in the world today. You've got to
dumb it down and if you sound to outlandish or outside social norms you're insane or a
moron.

Never got into Stargate... I'm not a big fiction fan.
 

Shuttlecraft

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"..praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies" (Psalm 68:33-34)

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Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
"..praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies" (Psalm 68:33-34)

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Let's talk about space Odin.... Topic sux. COSMIC ODIN
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What I found interesting is why they chose a horned helmet for Odin when he was
supposed to wear a winged one with the crest of an eagles head. Although artifacts
show him wearing a horned helmet, unless it was Loki. Any way that's off topic.

In the Marvel universe, I mean, it's sort of irrelevant.

But yes, religious people were pretty sheltered over the years. God seems to have
been in space while creating the Earth, I suppose. That would be some absurdly
powerful technology or these Ethereal beings, if you believe they're real, are deceivingly
powerful. Imagining such beings is hard to fathom, possible, but hard.
 
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Shuttlecraft

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Satan in Gibson's 'The Passion', slyly lurking, scheming and scanning our minds to seize on anything he can make flare up to sabotage us-

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He even tried it with Jesus's righthand man-
Jesus said to Peter - "Satan wanted to sift you" (Luke 22:31)
Report Mr Spock..

"We're being scanned, source and origin unknown"
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Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Satan in Gibson's 'The Passion', slyly lurking, scheming and scanning our minds to seize on anything he can make flare up to sabotage us-

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He even tried it with Jesus's righthand man-
Jesus said to Peter - "Satan wanted to sift you" (Luke 22:31)
Report Mr Spock..

"We're being scanned, source and origin unknown"
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Satan seems more concerned with the environment at this point than the total annihilation of mankind. Check out the carnage: http://tinyurl.com/deforestation33
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I can't really vouch for the King of Demons but he seemed to be trying to detour Christ
from his fate even telling him he was going to be crucified.

Whether or not he is a space man, I have no idea.
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He was cast out of the Heavens to roam Earth in a bolt of lighting?
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Shuttlecraft

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Jesus said- "I am not of this world...I'll tell you things hidden since the creation of the world" (John 8:14/ 8:23, Matt 13:35)
Hey Spock will you listen to him?

"Affirmative, it would be illogical not to listen, I'm all ears"
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Shuttlecraft

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There are similarities between Klaatu and Jesus.
Klaatu came to tell us a few things but was met at first with a slug from a 45-

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robocop (actually)

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Quran 2:19 -

Sahih International
Or [it is] like a rainstorm from the sky within which is darkness, thunder and lightning. They put their fingers in their ears against the thunderclaps in dread of death. But Allah is encompassing of the disbelievers.


In your story the cloud is the UFO and the thunder and lightning are what hit him. He was encompassed. It sounds not unauthentic to a Raelian, I think.

Now, Genesis 1 tells us that at first the creators had satellites in the sky and tested the sun and went below the surface of the earth hovering. Eventually after like 4000 years they brought land up. Consider that we have star-powered rockets now (in 2014) that can travel all they want as long as there are stars in the sky. The star light gets into a chamber where it bounces around and the pressure powers the orbiter, so although it might be slow humans can now power a rocket to go as far away as they want! But the first book of my books was written in 1974!

Deforestation is interesting. Farmers can always innovate to feed everyone on earth even if we were twice as populous. But the poor can't afford it. That is the problem with overpopulation which relates to deforestation. Was that Cain's sacrifice then, to make it so that if the starving ever got access to the farms they would trample the soil and take a major chunk out of the population?



But don't stop me from these wonderful posts! Also, please remember we would like to ask you to meditate for peace.
 
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Shuttlecraft

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..we would like to ask you to meditate for peace.

Yes we all want peace, but there are different opinions on how it can be achieved, personally I think the overpopulated human race needs to be drastically thinned out so that the few survivors can live in a quieter peaceful world.
Maybe God will create a virus to wipe out billions-
"The time has come for judging the dead.. and for destroying those who destroy the earth" (Revelation 11:18 )
or maybe the earth itself will create the virus. Attenborogh hinted at it-

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robocop (actually)

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Yes over 7.25 billion people is cause for alarm. Rael has been informed that those people who live in countries where the life expectancy is below 75 years old should be ordered to only have two children. If we did that, fortunately we could still send them food!
 
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robocop (actually)

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robocop (actually)

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Shuttlecraft said:

See Exodus 3:2 - And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
 
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