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The Bible & Cannabis

Would you say that Bible and US Constitution provide a strong right to use cannabis as medicine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 5 50.0%

  • Total voters
    10

william7

Member
Very interesting video, thanks. In your original post though, you didn't clarify the this very unique type of cannabis that doesn't typically get someone high. The problem is, most people don't use it for true medical needs, but simply to take the edge off of life. I can understand if someone's brain us very overactive and that cannabis helps them to feel a little more normal. I definitely can understand the draw of anything making you feel better. But what price will be paid because of it? Obviously the little girl and some of the other's in the video truly needed it, but their body's were over reactive in the first place. What happens when most people, like the people who were smoking in large crowds and singing it's praises? I just saw a bunch of dumbed down people wanting a bonding experience with other people doing a drug that, in my opinion takes the place of a spiritual need. Certain drugs provide a natural high that causes us to only care about the present and not on spiritual regeneration. Sure, they can put us in a state of spiritual reflection at times, but habitual use in my opinion robs people of the ability to connect more with God and grow mentally and spiritually as God intended for us. I just see alot if people forfeiting their spiritual destinies and any greatness that goes with that for something that makes them think that all they need on a daily basis in this life is their high. I'm subject to wanting that high just like alot of people, but I know it can easily deceive us into thinking that's all there is in life.

I totally agree with you. Those strains of cannabis that get you high shouldn't be used by serious practitioners of the Bible. But, the high CBD strains that don't get you high and are very good for you, should be used regularly by believers in my opinion. Those strains are obviously a gift from God that shouldn't be overlooked. Dr. William Courtney says we should use them regularly in his video. I think this is good advice.

 

william7

Member
just because people have a tendency to evade responsibility and accountability by retreating into some religious realm means nothing. and as for not coercing people into christianity, you really need to look at the history of that faith. that's just laughable assertion given the evidence against it. and then there are the more subtle forces of social blackmail and coercion that pervade socio-cultural discourse. as a atheist i am constantly exposed to that so don't tell me it doesn't exist.
and fifteen stories about what again? i come across people who find jesus all the time, they are saved so what? you think their victims care? it doesn't change their behavior at all. they just tell me that i cannot judge them, their god will. yeah, big deal. invisible dude in the sky will do something sometime after they are dead. there is much better fiction out there than the bible.
and a marriage course? that usually means men get absolved of their guilt and their cheating is forgiven, and they get to patronize heir wives who buy into that bull**** that everything is their fault anyhow and they need to forgive their sinning husbands because the little godling does too?
how can one be a jewish atheist anyhow? atheist means that one does not believe in the existence of spirits and such. being jewish implies belonging to a specific religious group.
religion has always been used as a tool to justify and legitimize idiocy, weakness, criminal behavior and the most inhumane actions possible. that alpha group thing and other make-belief systems don't impress me nor do they prove anything else other than people are gullible and excuse anything that has some religious seal of approval slapped on it.
You need to look to the positive side of the Bible and the good it can bring if practiced properly. Obviously, you've noticed what the false religious organizations are doing and are discouraged. Study the Bible for yourself and avoid the false teachers and religious organizations that are causing so much harm in the world.
 

william7

Member
I don't believe the Bible condones it, especially since it has been known to wreak havoc on alot of people's lives. I've known friends who are habitual users (who think they aren't addicted) and I can see correlations/similarities between them that affect their personalities in similar ways that don't do them good. Pre Christian days, I smoked it a few times. One time it made me walk out of a store forgetting to pay for a snickers. That was kind of scary. I'd never forgotten to pay for something! Several years after I re dedicated my life to Christ, I was on a first date and to quell my nervousness smoking some with my date who offered it to me. I remember the high didn't last for very long, and the next day I felt like I really lost something valuable, like a piece of the kingdom of God inside me had been chipped away. It was really profound loss though, like I wouldn't be able to get it back. My faith was still there, and I've grown as a Christian since then, but I never did it again be cat of the loss I felt. I do remember I must've played my musical instrument with more emotion, because twice, my cat ran up behind me and grabbed the back of my hair as I was playing and ran off with joy. I know cannabis can make one more emotional so I'm assuming it came through my music. As a musician, I would be tempted to use it just for that purpose alone, but as a Christian, what I lost was much more valuable and profound.

You shouldn't use cannabis to get high unless you have some serious medical condition that required it. You could use the non-psychoactive strains in raw form as described in the video below.

 

william7

Member
The Bible is clearly talking about plants as being a source of food in Genesis. There are poisonous plants as well, and God gives human's as well as animals intelligence and intuition on what is good and isn't good for us. He expects us to use discernment . Jesus drank wine and didn't condemn it, but the Bible does say that getting drunk is bad, clouds the mind, and that wine (or drinking often in a careless matter) isn't for kings or people in position in leadership who would lose alot from making a poor decision.
Agreed! Always use your cannabis in a way that is most healthy and not harmful or intoxicating.

 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
You need to look to the positive side of the Bible and the good it can bring if practiced properly. Obviously, you've noticed what the false religious organizations are doing and are discouraged. Study the Bible for yourself and avoid the false teachers and religious organizations that are causing so much harm in the world.
ok, be so kind and point some good things the bible is responsible for out for me. what good has that book done? when? where? and to whom?
and reading the bible was not exactly a great experience. the misogyny, intolerance, and violence are simply disgusting and disheartening. so what good would studying do? so that i can start to hate myself for being female and start thinking that men are entitled to the violence they often display towards women? that it's ok to kill people who think differently from you? that i am less than human due to my gender and that men are entitled to do as they see fit because of that? that racism is a natural and god given right of those who think they are the representatives of that particular god, because he divided us up into different groups?
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
As long as you use those plants wisely either as food or as medicine, there's no problem. Opium can be used for someone in serious or severe pain. And, cocaine leaves can be chewed for a mild stimulant effect. They are likely nutritious as well.

There are sugar cane plantation in various tropical counties
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and you can get molasses - ferment it further you got rum.
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and people get drunk with it
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But is this good and pleasing to the Lord God?

1 Corinthians 6:10 New International Version (NIV)

nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

My opinion: I rather be saved.
 

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