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The bible doesn't make sense

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
The christian view was that to marry more then one woman would amount to adultery...and thats why they banned the practice for anyone who wished to be in a position of responsibility in the congregation.
Those men had to be setting the right example. They had to be husbands of 'one' wife otherwise they could not be appointed at all. And this is why every western nation with a christian heritage are monogamous by law.

I am not so sure this was the view of all Christians from beginning. I know many Muslims that do not practice polygamy, specially in recent century.
But I think we should be comparing Bible with Quran, rather than Christians versus Muslims.




Christians certainly viewed Jesus teachings as putting an end to war. They would refuse to join the military and this is a noted fact about early christianity.

There has been many cruel pops in past centuries who killed and persecuted many simply because they had a different religious belief, and there has been many wars and conflicted between Christian denominations. I am not attributing these to teachings of Jesus though. I am just saying, the comparison should be based on Bible and Quran and not Christians and Muslims.



But in the quran we find suras such as Nos. 2, 3, 8, etc., containing admonition to engage in war and rebuking those who failed to do so.
The engagement in war, is also seen by Moses and other Prophets in Bible, which was ordered by God.
In new Testament there are passages that Jesus encouraged differences and separation between people for His sake. He encouraged that even if believing in Him causes separation between son and father, and daughters and mothers, true believers should not hesitate. He also rebuked the Jewish leaders.



well any superior laws in during the dark ages would certainly have been enlightening...to that i'd agree.

But in terms of the understanding of the nature of God and of what he requires of us, my personal opinion is no, I dont think the Quran is all that enlightening.

Revelations comes in accordance to the requirements of the people living in that Age. For example, when Moses came, He established many Laws and works to bring order and justice to His people.
During thousands of years, the Jews practiced those Laws and works. But eventually they were focusing too much on works and laws outwardly, with little attention to spirituality and inside. When Jesus came, He saw and recognized their problem, therefore to bring balance to them, Jesus focused more on spirituality and less on works, because the Jews were already focused on works too much.
The Christians practiced the teachings of Jesus for a few centuries, but they eventually lost that spirituality and love as they engaged in conflicts between their own denominations.
Muhammad came in a time and people that required order and justice. He saw the Problems of that Age, and brought Laws in order to bring order and justice to people. But He built His revelation on previous Revelations. He confirmed Revelation of Jesus and His spiritual teachings and on top of that, He brought Laws and commandments to bring order to the people. Now in this sense the Revelations are progressive. Each Revelation builds on previous revelations and creates a fuller measure of Revelation.
But that Jesus focused less on works is not a superiority of His revelation. That was only the requirement in His time. If Jesus had come in place of Moses, He would have done and said exactly same things that Moses did, as neither Jesus nor Moses did things on their own, but they did what God commanded. Likewise, if Muhammad had come in the time of Jesus, He would have done exactly what Jesus did and vice versa.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Genisis 1

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Then God Later on created 2 lights.

Genisis 1

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Genisis 1

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Then God Later on created 2 lights.

Genisis 1

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.


Christian Saint Augustine, an inspired man who lived long ago explained what it means:


"The light of Day One represents the enlightenment a soul receives which leads him to seek after God. The expanse, or “vault” (Augustine 1997, XIII.15.16) as he called it, of Day Two symbolizes the word of God in that just as the sky is stretched out to declare God’s truth to the world, so is God’s word stretched out on skins when a scroll is opened. The dry land of the third day represents those who hunger and thirst for God while the sea represents the masses of individuals who do not seek the Lord. The sun, moon, and stars of the fourth day are the various ways in which God communicates His message to mankind. The stars are likened to the gifts of the Spirit given to individuals, while the sun and moon shine brighter and represent the meatier teachings of God’s word which babes in the faith cannot handle. The swimming creatures of the fifth day symbolize God’s holy signs upon the earth while the flying creatures “represent the voice of [God’s] messengers” (Augustine 1997, XIII.20.26). The land animals of the sixth day are said to be true believers who no longer crawl or swim in the depths of the sea. These are living souls that have been regenerated and no longer need baptism as they once did while sunk beneath the waters"

An Examination of Augustine
 
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