The Bible Is A Heavily Outdated Book

[exchemist]

Creationists, Seventh day Adventists, and anti-theists. Who generally have for more in common than they care to admit

Well yes, some evangelical atheists think they are attacking Christianity by pointing out the bleedin' obvious: that quite a bit of what is in the bible, especially the Old Testament, can't be literally true. What is amazing is how stupid they must think everybody has been, for the last 2,000 years!

Whereas in fact people like Origen were aware of this, as early as 200AD. But then they read Homer. It's a pity some of the modern critics have not studied the classics.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Well yes, some evangelical atheists think they are attacking Christianity by pointing out the bleedin' obvious: that quite a bit of what is in the bible, especially the Old Testament, can't be literally true. What is amazing is how stupid they must think everybody has been, for the last 2,000 years!

Whereas in fact people like Origen were aware of this, as early as 200AD. But then they read Homer. It's a pity some of the modern critics have not studied the classics.

My favourite English Lit teacher used to say that you need some familiarity with the classics, to stand a chance with Shakespeare and Milton. And that familiarity with Shakespeare and Milton, and with the classics, was essential to understanding Keats and Shelley. And so on. She also said the King James Bible was one of the greatest compendia of literature in the English language. Not sure if she was religious or not, she never said. But as an aside, Hunter S Thompson acknowledged his own considerable artistic debt to the KJV, which he frequently turned to for inspiration on deadline day.

Alternatively, of course, most printings of the Bible are heavy enough that you can hit your opponent over the head with it in a debate. That would be a misuse, I feel. But it's what many people seem to do.

 

[exchemist]

My favourite English Lit teacher used to say that you need some familiarity with the classics, to stand a chance with Shakespeare and Milton. And that familiarity with Shakespeare and Milton, and with the classics, was essential to understanding Keats and Shelley. And so on. She also said the King James Bible was one of the greatest compendia of literature in the English language. Not sure if she was religious or not, she never said. But as an aside, Hunter S Thompson acknowledged his own considerable artistic debt to the KJV, which he frequently turned to for inspiration on deadline day.

Alternatively, of course, most printings of the Bible are heavy enough that you can hit your opponent over the head with it in a debate. That would be a misuse, I feel. But it's what many people seem to do.

My mother taught English for A level for many years and used to lament how hard it was to teach literature to people with no background understanding of Christianity - something she encountered more and more frequently in the years leading up to her retirement. References to biblical imagery, quoted bible verses and concepts from Christian doctrine pervade so much of our literature. Much the same goes for the classical myths.

In fact, it was partly this that caused my wife and I to decide to bring up our son Catholic, as we had ourselves been (she was French), and to return to church attendance, which we had both given up. He's given up on religion but he does know his way around it when he comes across references to it.

 

[Eric Hyom]

We can do nothing greater than love God, and love All our neighbours as we love ourselves. We are even asked to love and pray for our enemies.

How do you obey the greatest commandment to love a God you have never met? Part of the answer is in Mathew 25.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

The world would be a better place if we followed God's word in the Bible.

 

[Audie]

Sure it may be outdated, but it shouldn't be thrown out either. Learning from the past helps to prevent making the same mistakes in the future.

Maybe not to be thrown out but it sure
gets more attention than it has coming to it.

 

[Audie]

My mother taught English for A level for many years and used to lament how hard it was to teach literature to people with no background understanding of Christianity - something she encountered more and more frequently in the years leading up to her retirement. References to biblical imagery, quoted bible verses and concepts from Christian doctrine pervade so much of our literature. Much the same goes for the classical myths.

In fact, it was partly this that caused my wife and I to decide to bring up our son Catholic, as we had ourselves been (she was French), and to return to church attendance, which we had both given up. He's given up on religion but he does know his way around it when he comes across references to it.

American English is idiomatic- way too idiomatic, really.

The language flowed through Britain, was taken
over by Americans
Both nations' intl influence made it the unternatinal language of commerce and
government.

But American idioms are not part of that new
version, international english.

 

[Audie]

[QUOTE="Eric Hyom, post: 8027450,

The world would be a better place if we followed God's word in the Bible.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps. But we'd need to know that there is
a god and what his word is.

Your Christian God is iffy. We notice you
selected some of his nicer savings.

And don't address that Christians don't agree
on what " his words" mean or how to put
them into effect.

I'm not sure the ones who found he supported
Imperialism, slavery and torture are the
interpreters I want showing the world how to
act.

I dont want the regressive anti intellectuals
who think evolution is a lie and believe
in Noah's ark to be allowed to teach in
any school or influence any policy.

Trying to have the world run by what
anyone fancies to be God's law is a sure
disaster.

 

[Only Reason]

"1,000 years is like a day to God." The scribe who wrote that could not fathom what 1,000 years is like obviously. They only lived maybe 50-70 years on average back then and no one at any point in time in history could either nor today. What was stopping him from saying 10,000 years is like a day to God? or 100,000 years? Nothing. You can stuff any abstract idea into your own book about a made up deity to your liking. The fact is they knew nothing of what they spoke except nonsense.

 

[nPeace]

Nothing in the bible and what it says can be applied to the normal way of life today.

Some believe as you do.
However, the facts are contrary to that claim...
Here are some examples of benefits that come from living by Bible standards.

There are quite a few, but if I listed them, it would make this post extremely long.
Just keep in mind this is an extremely short list.

Living by Bible standards makes one a better person.
Romans 12:17-21
Evidence -
The world is getting angrier, according to a new poll
More than a third of the world’s adults are worried or stressed, according to a new poll that’s found 2018 to be a record year for negative emotions.

And we're losing our temper more than ever - 22% of adults admitting they feel angry, a record since Gallup started collecting data in 2005.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Evidence -
Effects of human sexual promiscuity - Wikipedia
A high number of sexual partners in a person's life usually means they are at a higher risk of sexually transmitted infections and life-threatening cancers. These costs largely pertain to the dramatic consequences to physical and mental health. The physical health risks mainly consist of the sexually transmitted disease risks, such as HIV and AIDS, that increase as individuals have develop sexual partners over their lifetime. The mental health risks typically associated with promiscuous individuals are mood, and personality disorders, often resulting in substance use disorders and, or permanent illness. These effects typically translate into several other long-term issues in people's lives and in their relationships, especially in the case of adolescents or those with previous pathological illnesses, disorders, or factors such as family dysfunction and social stress.

Promiscuity in adolescents
Adolescent birth rate per 1000 women, 2007–2012
The prevalence of promiscuity, in the case of adolescents, is known to be a root cause for many physical, mental, and socio-economic risks. Research has found that adolescents, in particular, are at a higher risk of negative consequences as a result of promiscuity.

In sub-Saharan Africa, adolescents engaged in promiscuous activities face many health and economic risks related to teenage pregnancy, maternal mortality, labor complications, and loss of educational opportunities.

2 Corinthians 8:21
Evidence -
Truthfulness and accuracy are critical for effective organizational functioning, but dishonesty (in the form of lying, misrepresentation, and fraud) continue to be pervasive in organizational life. Workplace dishonesty is an inherently unique behavior that should be distinguished from broader categories of unethical workplace behavior and organizational deviance, in that dishonesty is an overt social behavior - that is, requiring an audience to exist as a behavior. Compared to stealing or cheating, dishonest acts require knowing fabrication of false information, intended to deceive an anticipated audience.

Closely related to honesty, is respect for authority.
Romans 13:1-7
Evidence -
How big is the problem of tax evasion?
Tax evasion – the act of not paying taxes that are owed – is illegal and is an underappreciated problem in the United States. About one out of every six dollars owed in federal taxes is not paid. The amount of unpaid taxes every year is plausibly about three-quarters the size of the entire annual federal budget deficit.

Proverbs 14:30; Psalms 37:8; Ephesians 4:26
Evidence -
For Your Heart: Stay Calm and Cool
Don’t get mad - stay healthy. People who feel angry often and fail to deal with it well are more likely to have heart problems, including heart attack, shows research from Johns Hopkins and other leading health institutions. The incidence of heart attack was almost five times higher in the two hours after an angry outburst, and the risk of stroke increased three-fold, found one 2014 study in European Heart Journal. The study showed that the more intense or frequent the blowups, the higher one’s heart risks.

The relationship between heart health and depression is well documented. There is mounting evidence for an independent anxiety–heart disease link as well. In particular, people who have generalized anxiety disorder (see "Symptoms of generalized anxiety disorder") seem to suffer higher rates of heart attack and other cardiac events.

Living by Bible standards is a protection and safeguard.
Exodus 23:2; Proverbs 13:20; 1 Corinthians 15:33
Evidence -
All over the place.
It's actually right under our nose.

I don't think one who considers all these facts would be reasonable in agreeing with the claim that the Bible is not relevant to our daily lives.

 

[nPeace]

Heck, some of its texts are almost 3,000 years old!

Yes. That's what makes the Bible so unique, and amazing. It's time tested.
No matter what era, culture, nationality, it works for all time... in every generation.

The bible is a collection of 66 books composed by random authors over the course of a very long period of time. Most of the authors, at least in the old testament, could not have known each other. Thus is the reason why there are MANY contradictions in the bible. They simply didn't all agree with one another's scriptures.

Interesting...
Do you suppose that's an opinion, based on a bit of bias, perhaps, because I find it interesting that billions of people disagree, and what's more interesting, is the fact that when these "contradictions" are presented, they magnify the real problem - the skeptics misunderstanding, or misreading the text, according to their own understanding.
See here, as one example.

There's no way stoning disobedient children to death can be integrated into modern society today nor stoning rape victims simply for being unable to call out due to the offender covering her mouth. All which ARE acceptable in the bible.

Here is a fitting example of what I mean by skeptics' mistakes, and adding their own narratives.

You added... "stoning rape victims simply for being unable to call out due to the offender covering her mouth".

First, the assumption is made, that the person is a victim of forced rape. Then based on that assumption, the text is contradicted by claiming that the victim was prevented from screaming.... Details we do not possess.

It's like going into a courtroom, and claiming one does not need evidence to convict, because though they were not there, they know the details - everything that happened.

That's the position of the skeptics.... but is it a reasonable position? It's a sad position they place themselves in, isn't it... all because they want an excuse to attack the Bible.

I hope though, you are not assuming that the "children" stoned were actually minors.
Please tell me you are not thinking that.
Perhaps you might want to read it again, and see why we know that no minors were ever stoned to death, in Israel.

Stoning was a capital punishment.... like hanging, the guillotine, firing squad, electric chair, gas chamber, lethal injection....

Man, those guys tried everything.
God always had one method. He never had to experiment, and lament.... "Oh. Maybe that's too torturous."

And also killing innocent women and children. Not to mention PREGNANT women especially. So to all of those anti-abortion Christians, please take note.

Innocent women and children?
That sounds like another assumption. Actually, nowhere in the Bible do we read that God put to death "innocent women and children".
What made them innocent?

There are rules in war that militaries must follow like the Geneva Convention which states patently that you CANNOT kill non combatants. But it was no problem in the bible for jews to do those things of course.

Non combatants would be like those who don't take up arms, I suppose. This is not called warfare - where two nations, or enemies are physically active in combat.

The destruction of the nations and their cities, was not direct warfare... except, of course, where the cities' inhabitants attacked Israelites.
If you have examined the scriptures, you would know what it was.
These scriptures can help. Exodus 34:11-16; Genesis 15:15-16; Leviticus 18:24-30; Deuteronomy 18:12; Deuteronomy 20:17-18

Hope you see why.
Basically, God was 'cleaning house'.
The nations around, who engaged in disgusting practices were to be removed from the land. It was God's judgment.
Too bad, for the Israelites, because of they becoming unfaithful, they failed to remove them, and they were ensnared by those same immoral practices, which cost them their lives as well... Since God is not partial.
They too were wiped out.
Think of the flood.

God simply preserved a remnant, through which God would fulfill his promise.

Do the Christian women of today cover their hair when they read the bible?

Is there a scripture that says they should?
Perhaps you meant they should cover their head - not when reading, but when prophesying. 1 Corinthians 11:2-16

I can guarantee you that 99.9% of them don't. It was an abomination to NOT cover your hair as a woman back in the hay days of Christianity.

Not in general. No. On particular occasions, head covering was required for Christian women.

On occasion today, I might stumble upon a female pastor. But this is also an abomination according to Christianity. Women are not meant to speak but keep silent. These are just a few of many examples.

Hmm.
I think we had better look at the scriptures.
That "Women are not meant to speak but keep silent" can be taken in two ways...
Like "Women. Keep silent." Lol

(1 Corinthians 14:33-34) 33 For God is a God not of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the holy ones, 34 let the women keep silent in the congregations, for it is not permitted for them to speak. Rather, let them be in subjection, as the Law also says.

(1 Corinthians 14:40) 40 But let all things take place decently and by arrangement.

Looks to me like an arrangement in the congregation, where order is the focus of that arrangement.

For example, in verse 27, Paul said, if someone speaks in a tongue, he should keep silent... if there i s no interpreter. 1 Corinthians 14:27

In verse 30, he says, "if another one receives a revelation while sitting there, let the first speaker keep silent. 1 Corinthians 14:30

So. we see, the matter of keeping silent - not speaking, has to do with order.
As in the case of head-covering, there is an arrangement in place, where women do not take the lead in the congregation.
As the scriptures show, they wear a head covering, if they have to take on such a role of responsibility. 1 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Corinthians 11:7-10;

And how about Jesus' coming? Well, 2,000 years ago the christian scribes said he will come back REALLY soon and that the end is nigh! Before this 'generation' ends, 'soon.' That's how soon I'm talking about. But, here we are a very, very long 2,000 years later where many, many generations have come and gone. And still no Jesus? It sounds like a failed and outdated prophecy to me.

Which Generation was that Jesus spoke of?

I can't even fathom what 2,000 years is like in my head. I mean, the 1980s feel like forever ago, am I right? And you still want to say that Jesus is coming which was mentioned 2,000 years ago? Please.

Yeah. To us it's a really long time. I mean, I feel like I have lived forever, and I am not even 70. Lol.
However, what is long to me, may be short to someone else.

For example, sometimes, I am doing something, I am really enjoying, and I look at the time, and it's like 'Whoa. Where did the time go.'
Another time, I am doing nothing, except waiting for something, and I look at the time, and I want to know, why it does not hurry up already.

So, to us, time can vary, based on our outlook, or perspective.
To those who are sure of God's promises, it's as though they don't actually have to wait too long.
Habakkuk 2:3; 2 Peter 3:9
Besides, God's patients serves a good purpose, as it is allowing many persons to change their lives for the better.

Are you aware of how many people have been reformed, who were in prison. Or how many drug addicts, gang members, etc., have had their lives changed, through a Bible study course. ...and you say the Bible is irrelevant to our lives today?

I'm saying he is not coming back. "Oh brother, just you wait, sinner!" Ha, I'll wait and you'll wait with me. But I really think you will be disappointed.

Many have said that... still say that... and will continue to say that.
Many a "Ha", has turned into a "I'm sorry, I didn't know this before." They are still waiting, but of course, not just waiting to die.

It's obvious that society has evolved and religion in general along with it which to me makes the bible an outdated book. What say you about my argument?

Society has indeed evolved, and religion continues to evolve... but remember, there are thousands of religion, and thousands of years ago, there were hundreds of religions.
So religion hasn't really changed much.
They only keep going further and further away from the truth.

One religion though, I believe, will always evolve to be closer to the truth. Proverbs 4:18
That's the one Jesus spoke about... and James. John 4:23-24; James 1:27

I think your argument is typical of the skepticism that has also evolved from a world that is growing further and further away from God... but that is not surprising.

 

[nPeace]

Updated to elaborate on "other examples." And to me, the bible and religion as a whole are things of the past. Modern society is moving on from religion and superstition. Religion is declining faster than ever also. Does this mean Jesus is coming because people are leaving Christianity in droves? No, it just means people want to take a more realistic approach to life. They had enough of an open mind to look at other possibilities that may be considered the truth instead now.

I understand when you say 'Christianity', you mean what people refer to as Christianity, so that would be correct, in that sense.

However, Christianity as most people know it today, is not Christianity, as understood it in the first century - followers of Christ' teachings and example.
In that light, the statement "people are leaving Christianity in droves" would be inaccurate, for two reasons.

1. True Christianity is not recognized by the populace, since it is different to so-called Christianity.
2. People are flooding to true Christianity, in droves - the numbers keep increasing... Not decreasing. Never ones has the numbers decreased.

 

[Trailblazer]

But we agree that those passages are in there, don't we?
How about cutting out the obsolete stuff and only keep the good stuff?

Unfortunately that is not how it works once a Book has been canonized. It is a whole book, with both good and bad.

The teachings of Jesus were reiterated in the Hidden Words of Baha'u'llah so if people want to read only those teachings and not all the obsolete stuff in the Bible they can read the Hidden Words.

This is that which hath descended from the realm of glory, uttered by the tongue of power and might, and revealed unto the Prophets of old. We have taken the inner essence thereof and clothed it in the garment of brevity, as a token of grace unto the righteous, that they may stand faithful unto the Covenant of God, may fulfill in their lives His trust, and in the realm of spirit obtain the gem of Divine virtue.

The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 3

 

[Trailblazer]

It would be a better option to try to understand those passages a bit better and that might help us to see that the Bible is not heavily outdated and that the same problems existed then as now and the Biblical answers are relevant.

The problem is that there are no answers to the 'modern problems' in the Bible and that is why God sent a 'new' Messenger.
Jesus did not address the problems we have now because there was no need to since they did not exist, but even if some of the same problems existed back then people were not ready to deal with them. That is why Jesus said.....

John 16:12-14 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The problems in society that existed in the Bible days are not the same as problems that exist today, and the problems that exist today will not be the same as the problems that will exist in the future.

“The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy. Every age hath its own problem, and every soul its particular aspiration. The remedy the world needeth in its present-day afflictions can never be the same as that which a subsequent age may require. Be anxiously concerned with the needs of the age ye live in, and center your deliberations on its exigencies and requirements.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 213

 

[Brian2]

Why would that be a better option? We agree that genocide, slavery and subjugation of women are heavily outdated and we agree that the Bible promotes them. You can't give a Bible to someone and expect them to come to that conclusion by the book itself. At least write a coda or preamble to make clear that the Bible shouldn't be taken literally and that it isn't a basis to get one's morals from.

You should try to understand the Bible a bit better and you might see who God is in the Bible and His authority over His creation and that He is our judge. You might see that God was judging Canaan for it's evil ways and taking the land from them and giving it to Israel. You might see the high ranking of women in the Bible in God's eyes and that both males and females were made in the image of God. You might see that being ruled over by men was just a result of the fall and not a command for women to comply with.
You might see that buying and selling slaves is spoken against in the NT but accepted in the OT as part of the culture and economic system of the times and even as part of a social security system., and that God made laws about it to make sure it was conducted in a manner that was acceptable.
People have read stories and laws in the Bible and understood them wrongly as moral precepts but that was looking at them through eyes that were not trying to do the will of God probably and just trying to justify what they wanted to do through the Bible.

 

[Brian2]

There are elements of 'the same problems happened then' for sure. War, famine, flood, pestilence. Some elements of the human condition are timeless, as well.

But it's also somewhat trite to suggest we have the same problems now as then in some other ways.

Almost invariably there is not just an interpretive element to the majority of Christian beliefs and actions, but a selective one too.

So...from my point of view...there is indeed wisdom and thought-provoking elements to the Bible. But it is far from completely relevant, and much is ignored or discarded in order to focus on what are now seen as core messages. To be clear, I prefer that interpretive behaviour to some sort of scriptural fundamentalism, but what people read as literal, what as metaphor, and what is left at the door is generally pretty informative and subjective in my opinion.

Yes there is not doubt a selective element in what different groups teach about things in the Bible and that is informative about those groups/people a lot of the time.
In the end it is God's Spirit that teaches and guides us and we should try to be open to that even when it means going against the teachings of the group we are in.

 

[Brian2]

The problem is that there are no answers to the 'modern problems' in the Bible and that is why God sent a 'new' Messenger.
Jesus did not address the problems we have now because there was no need to since they did not exist, but even if some of the same problems existed back then people were not ready to deal with them. That is why Jesus said.....

John 16:12-14 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The problems in society that existed in the Bible days are not the same as problems that exist today, and the problems that exist today will not be the same as the problems that will exist in the future.

“The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy. Every age hath its own problem, and every soul its particular aspiration. The remedy the world needeth in its present-day afflictions can never be the same as that which a subsequent age may require. Be anxiously concerned with the needs of the age ye live in, and center your deliberations on its exigencies and requirements.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 213

For the Jews the answers to the new problems and situations can be understood in what God taught in the OT.
Add to this the NT and the New Covenant and Spirit of God which we are given in the New Covenant and there is always going to be an answer to those situations and problems that are new in this age.
Ezekial 36:27 And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes and to carefully observe My ordinances.

But it is almost 200 years since 1844 and there are a lot of new things and situations since then which I'm sure Baha'u'llah did not cover in his thousands of pages of writing.
The Holy Spirit is the guide in all things and can lead us to the truth in all things and with Him we have God with us all the time.
The Spirit of Truth is the Holy Spirit and He was given to the disciples of Jesus 2000 years ago.
Jesus speaking to His disciples said (John 14:15) “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Also when speaking to His disciples He said (John 14:26) But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.

The Advocate, is the Holy Spirit, is the Spirit of Truth and was given to the disciples of Jesus 2000 years ago and to each believer in Jesus after that. God lives in us.

 

[Glaurung]

Nothing in the bible and what it says can be applied to the normal way of life today.

Christianity admits this first point. The ceremonial and judicial laws given in the Old Testament were given to a particular people at a particular time in history. The Mosaic Law ceased to bind after the coming of Christ.

Heck, some of its texts are almost 3,000 years old! The bible is a collection of 66 books composed by random authors over the course of a very long period of time. Most of the authors, at least in the old testament, could not have known each other. Thus is the reason why there are MANY contradictions in the bible. They simply didn't all agree with one another's scriptures.

On the contrary, there are seventy-three books in my Bible.

But regardless of which canon you prefer; I actually like the idea that there are conflicting voices within the Biblical witness. Scripture as an unfolding dialogue. The idea that the Bible ought to have a single, clear and unambiguous point of view on any given topic is a mere assumption of a certain kind of Protestantism.

The rest of the original post is more or less the same idea repeated. Christianity does not claim that we should model our lives on the ceremonial and judicial laws given in the Old Testament. Nor is it any kind of new insight that the New Testament is itself a product of a particular time and place within history. For the Catholic and Orthodox Christian, the Bible does not stand alone in a hermeneutic vacuum but as one part of a greater sacred tradition.

 

[Heyo]

People have read stories and laws in the Bible and understood them wrongly as moral precepts but that was looking at them through eyes that were not trying to do the will of God probably and just trying to justify what they wanted to do through the Bible.

I agree. But why won't you like that to be printed as a preamble into the Bible?
It wouldn't prevent people from misusing it as rectification of their own agenda but it would be easy to show how they are wrong.

 

[metis]

The Mosaic Law ceased to bind after the coming of Christ.

Except for those that were/are Jewish as Paul acknowledges.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You do seem to be cherry picking passages in the Bible and not having any understanding of them at all.

True.

Old testament is essentially Jewish.

New testament is essentially Christian.

Only catch is the statement that God never changes.