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I have no idea why you're replying to me. I'm not interested in your Bible bashing ignorant thread. I just thought that post was interesting.
Sorry if I offended or disturbed you.
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I have no idea why you're replying to me. I'm not interested in your Bible bashing ignorant thread. I just thought that post was interesting.
Thus there is no honest discussion with you on this topic.Not that big of a difference. Either way the general point is the bible is not a good source for moral guidance.
How does one define "murder" in this context?
As explained above, No.Is there some universal definition which applies for all time,
Actually, secular or religious laws, and where; yes it would.or would it be based on the secular laws in existence at the time and place an alleged murder was committed
God was not "punishing" Jesus. Jesus readily accepted the assignment God gave him, "to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.” (Matthew 20:28) Without the ransom sacrifice of Jesus perfect human life, I believe all of us would still be under the condemnation Adam brought upon his offspring. (Romans 5:12) Love moved God to provide the means to grant obedient men, women, and children everlasting life, as Jesus himself explained at John 3:16. And loved move Jesus to serve as "the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." (John 1:29) I am convinced Jesus is not God, but God's Son.Let's start with the jesus story. It says the sins of the guilty (all humanity) can be absolved by punishing the innocent (Jesus). Is that moral ?
God was not "punishing" Jesus. Jesus readily accepted the assignment God gave him, "to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.” (Matthew 20:28) Without the ransom sacrifice of Jesus perfect human life, I believe all of us would still be under the condemnation Adam brought upon his offspring. (Romans 5:12) Love moved God to provide the means to grant obedient men, women, and children everlasting life, as Jesus himself explained at John 3:16. And loved move Jesus to serve as "the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." (John 1:29) I am convinced Jesus is not God, but God's Son.
According to.... Who ?
Nope, that is not at all what i am saying.So you are saying, even though they are practicing their religion, there are exceptions to when the Constitutional right to practice religion applies?
Exactly.You don't get to break the law by claiming your religion compels you to.
okNope, that is not at all what i am saying.
There is a constitutional right to freedom of belief, it does not mean that any religious practice is ok. Beliefs and practices are different,
Oh. I thought it just said freedom of religion without specifying what form that freedom may take.There is a constitutional right to freedom of belief, it does not mean that any religious practice is ok. Beliefs and practices are different,
What is your intent, to be in agreement with all the scriptures how they've always been taught by natural minded mankind by creating an image and definition of God, to show others objective truth, to seek a common ground for all, to seek the deeper spirit behind the scriptures, to discredit God, to discredit the scriptures, to inflate an ego?
What's in your heart, friend? Love and peace?
Very interesting take. Can't say I've heard it before. I'd love to see you expound on it.
Is that even that big of a price to pay for God? I mean, if God is omnipotent, couldn't he have figured out an easier way to accomplish this?It would not be moral were Jesus simply a human being, but it is moral to the point of demonstrating sacrificial love , because Jesus is GOD the Creator who chose to come in the flesh and take upon Himself the sins of the world to redeem fallen humanity.
It is unlikely that is your goal given your posts.Exploring and promoting the truth.
Unless finding the easiest way to accomplish the goal was not God's highest priority.Is that even that big of a price to pay for God? I mean, if God is omnipotent, couldn't he have figured out an easier way to accomplish this?
But, do you really think God is that petty? I mean, why would he care about his own "glory?"Unless finding the easiest way to accomplish the goal was not God's highest priority.
A fence around the tree would have been easier.
A guard dog to chase away the serpent would have been easier.
What if the most important thing, to God, was something else ... like His Glory.
How does Jesus help God's Glory?
Ask Him (I am not the keeper of God's motives.)
I just find it hard to believe that God would care about his own Glory. Wouldn't he be more interested with our own well-being more so than his?Unless finding the easiest way to accomplish the goal was not God's highest priority.
A fence around the tree would have been easier.
A guard dog to chase away the serpent would have been easier.
What if the most important thing, to God, was something else ... like His Glory.
How does Jesus help God's Glory?
Ask Him (I am not the keeper of God's motives.)
It is unlikely that is your goal given your posts.
Promoting YOUR truth and casually dismissing any contrary claims with an army of rhetoric seems more accurate.
Freedom of religion means that you can be a member of any religion you wish. Religious practices are not covered in that law. In fact many religious practices are illegal.Oh. I thought it just said freedom of religion without specifying what form that freedom may take.