The Bible on Sex

[tumbleweed41]

I'm actually cooler with that interpretation of the creation myth. Otherwise... well, there's just way too much incest.

Don't forget the sex with the the "Giants":cover:

 

[Enoch07]

Right....dodging the question.....I get it.

Well then back to previous discussions which you do not feel are off topic.

And where in the Bible does it say God stopped taking burnt offerings? Bless us with your scriptural understanding.

If you wanna discuss it join the other thread that is in full swing. You are disrespecting Beau's thread by derailing it.

 

[tumbleweed41]

So, please answer my question. During the Enochlaughian period, when God did not command burnt offerings and Jesus had not arrived on earth yet, how did God's people become cleansed of sin?

And where in the Bible does it say God stopped taking burnt offerings? Bless us with your scriptural understanding.

Enoch07?

 

[Enoch07]

Sometime after Noah's flood. I cant remember the exact verse(s). People did not become clean easily before Jesus. It was a lot of hard work to make up for your sins at that point. Jesus gave us the ability to repent. All that is required is to believe in Him and repent, and try not to make the same mistake again.

I answered that long ago. I was not dodging the question. I answered it honestly as I recall it from the Bible. I don't have time to research the scripture atm. Take it for what its worth.

 

[Comicaze247]

You only make yourself look more ignorant with every post so I would suggest you stop now.

Oh the irony.

And I suggest you stop being so insulting. Otherwise, you might find yourself a ban, like others who've had similar speech patterns as you.

Wait, on the other hand, keep talking like that. We may be better off.

 

[Enoch07]

And I suggest you stop being so insulting. Otherwise, you might find yourself a ban, like others who've had similar speech patterns as you.

You might have a point if I directly insulted him. He chose to keep posting wrong information over and over. He was insulting himself by posting a cooking recipe, without reading the whole chapter. How is this my fault?

 

[Comicaze247]

You might have a point if I directly insulted him. He chose to keep posting wrong information over and over. He was insulting himself by posting a cooking recipe, without reading the whole chapter. How is this my fault?

Sorry it is my right to laugh at people who feign intelligence yet cannot read like you Rage, Tumble and Beau

And about the "cooking recipe," I didn't see it as one either.

1:5 And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron's sons, shall bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar that is by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

Doesn't sound like any recipe I've ever heard of. Not even if you replace "blood" with "chocolate" or "gravy." That would just be making a mess.

 

[Enoch07]

Go to a Kosher deli. Ask the butcher what Kosher means. He will point out that meat needs to be slaughtered/cleaned/cut/bleed in a ritualistic way. The Jews still follow this to this very day.

 

[Comicaze247]

Kosher slaughtering

The mammals and birds that may be eaten must be slaughtered in accordance with Jewish law. (Deut. 12:21). We may not eat animals that died of natural causes (Deut. 14:21) or that were killed by other animals. In addition, the animal must have no disease or flaws in the organs at the time of slaughter. These restrictions do not apply to fish; only to the flocks and herds (Num. 11:22).
Ritual slaughter is known as shechitah, and the person who performs the slaughter is called a shochet, both from the Hebrew root Shin-Cheit-Tav, meaning to destroy or kill. The method of slaughter is a quick, deep stroke across the throat with a perfectly sharp blade with no nicks or unevenness. This method is painless, causes unconsciousness within two seconds, and is widely recognized as the most humane method of slaughter possible.
Another advantage of shechitah is that it ensures rapid, complete draining of the blood, which is also necessary to render the meat kosher.
The shochet is not simply a butcher; he must be a pious man, well-trained in Jewish law, particularly as it relates to kashrut. In smaller, more remote communities, the rabbi and the shochet were often the same person.
Draining of Blood

The Torah prohibits consumption of blood. Lev. 7:26-27; Lev. 17:10-14. This is the only dietary law that has a reason specified in Torah: we do not eat blood because the life of the animal (literally, the soul of the animal) is contained in the blood. This applies only to the blood of birds and mammals, not to fish blood. Thus, it is necessary to remove all blood from the flesh of kosher animals.
The first step in this process occurs at the time of slaughter. As discussed above, shechitah allows for rapid draining of most of the blood.
The remaining blood must be removed, either by broiling or soaking and salting. Liver may only be kashered by the broiling method, because it has so much blood in it and such complex blood vessels. This final process must be completed within 72 hours after slaughter, and before the meat is frozen or ground. Most butchers and all frozen food vendors take care of the soaking and salting for you, but you should always check this when you are buying someplace you are unfamiliar with.
An egg that contains a blood spot may not be eaten. This isn't very common, but I find them once in a while. It is a good idea to break an egg into a glass and check it before you put it into a heated pan, because if you put a blood-stained egg into a heated pan, the pan becomes non-kosher.

I see nothing about sprinkling blood around an altar near any door. Try again.

 

[Bedlam]

Don't forget the sex with the the "Giants":cover:

The baseball team?

Heh, but seriously, that's very strange, isn't it? Even though the translators tried very hard to avoid words like "sex" "Intercourse" and "Doin' the nasty", it's clear that the Bible is a very kinky book. I can't tell you how many times I've seen that peculiar word, "begat", but I'm sure we all know what it means.

So in an effort to bring the thread... erm... sort of back to the OT, why is it that the translators felt the need to try hiding the sexual act behind the curtain of "begat"? Why not treat the readers as mature adults instead of children?

 

[Enoch07]

Comicaze please read the quote on Kosher again. It states that Leviticus is where the the Kosher preparation comes from. Now go back and look at Tumbles first 2 post where he accused me of being wrong. What book is he quoting? Ill save you the trouble..Leviticus. /slam dunk So yes I was right thank you for proving it.

 

[Comicaze247]

Comicaze please read the quote on Kosher again. It states that Leviticus is where the the Kosher preparation comes from. Now go back and look at Tumbles first 2 post where he accused me of being wrong. What book is he quoting? Ill save you the trouble..Leviticus. /slam dunk So yes I was right thank you for proving it.

Completely ignoring the fact that the quote I provided states nothing about sprinkling blood around any specific place to make things Kosher . . . But keep thinking you're right if that helps you sleep at night. It obviously really matters to your ego.

Anyway, I think there could be many reasons why the Bible is so anti-sex.
For example, the "virgin-birth." Perhaps they're using Mary as a basis of being holy, so to be more virtuous, you have to be a virgin.
Funny thing is, in the original story, she might not have been a virgin at all. They may have changed that part when they were trying to convert the Roman army. What I know they changed is Jesus' birth date. The Roman army worshipped a god called "Mithras" who was a god born of a virgin on the winter solstice (sound familiar?). And in reality, it's actually impossible that Jesus was born in the winter solstice because the Roman Census (which is why Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem) happens in the Spring. So they changed Jesus' birthday to help more easily convert the Roman army. "Oh yeah, that must be Jesus. He was born of a virgin on the soltice too. I think they're the same person!" Who's to say they didn't change the idea of whether or not he was born of a virgin then?
Another theory (my personal theory) is that the original writers of the Bible just plain couldn't get laid, so they made abstinence "virtuous."

 

[Enoch07]

It matters not to me. Except when several people try to prove me wrong then fail horribly at it. Then in your attempt to prove me wrong you proved me right by posting a definition of Kosher that links it to Leviticus. Do you not see the irony?

 

[Comicaze247]

It matters not to me. Except when several people try to prove me wrong then fail horribly at it. Then in your attempt to prove me wrong you proved me right by posting a definition of Kosher that links it to Leviticus. Do you not see the irony?

No, I don't, as you seem to be twisting the words to suit your own beliefs, ignoring specific parts. Very fundamentalist-Christian-like of you Now I see no point in arguing with people like you, so this should sum up what I think of you and your "arguments":

 

[Enoch07]

haha :clap

 

[Mister Emu]

Anyway, I think there could be many reasons why the Bible is so anti-sex.

The Bible is hardly anti-sex... much less "so anti-sex"...

The Roman army worshipped a god called "Mithras" who was a god born of a virgin on the winter solstice (sound familiar?).

I guess you could call a rock "virgin"... but really?(Mithra issued from a rock fully grown wearing his phyrgian cap)...

So they changed Jesus' birthday to help more easily convert the Roman army.

They set the date of the celebration of Christ's birth to a time when many religions celebrated, not just Mithraism...

 

[Scott C.]

There's an interesting thread on Homosexuality going on and I thought I'd widen the conversation a bit. The Bible has much to say on sexuality, much that would not be accepted today. For instance:

• • DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
    If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
  • DEUTERONOMY 22:22
    If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.
  • MARK 10:1-12
    Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.
  • LEVITICUS 18:19
    The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.
  • MARK 12:18-27
    If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.
  • DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12
    If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.

Sexuality is undoubtedly under the umbrella of morality and therefore is something about which the Bible should provide instruction. How do Christians who follow the teachings of the Bible feel about the above moral instructions? If you believe the Bible is a moral guidebook, do you follow these? If, as I have heard some Christians say, these instructions are part of the ancient culture and have no place in modern society, what other moral instructions in the Bible are outdated?

A fundamental principle of Christianity is that Jesus Christ fulfilled the law of Moses. All of the Old Testament versus quoted above are part of the law of Moses, which we are instructed by God to longer follow. We have to clearly understand the differences between the Mosaic law (the lesser law) and the higher law of the gospel. Being chaste is part of the gospel of Christ and lasts forever. Stoning an adulterer is part of the Mosaic law.

 

[Scott C.]

For example, the "virgin-birth." Perhaps they're using Mary as a basis of being holy, so to be more virtuous, you have to be a virgin."

A virgin is not more virtuous than a married person. There is no loss of virtue in marriage.

 

[rageoftyrael]

As far as i can see, enoch, you haven't proven anything to any of us. It seems as if the other guy has superior evidence, which is why we are agreeing with him. You haven't dropped a verse yet that really contradicted what he's been saying.

Oh, and just as a parting shot, how can i write, but no read? And if i can't read, how am i able to respond to something written on a forum? We obviously weren't supposed to see it, cause i checked, and it isn't in this thread, so you must have sent it via private message. Either way, don't get cocky thinking you've proven a point, cause you haven't. Wanna know why? No one agrees with you. You can't have proven something if no one agrees.

And no one here is by any means stupid, look at some of their responses to some purely hypothetical questions and you'd know that. I always figure that if you come here, and don't get kicked of for preaching, you're probably reasonably intelligent. You haven't been here very long, so we'll see how long you last.

If one were to ask why i think people here are reasonably intelligent, my response would be simple. They come here and talk about difficult topics on a regular basis. That isn't something the average person subjects themselves to. another reason, I respect some of these peoples opinions, and you don't know me, but if you did, you would know that my respect is hard to come by.

 

[rageoftyrael]

oh, and cause i'm feeling like a jerk, everyone, look at enoch7's signature, isn't that the most ironic thing you've ever read?