The Big Bang and Evolution

[Dogen]

Yes... yes I am. Few got the joke-name. So I reverted to my original Topix moniker, which is more accurate anyhow.

Hi Bob. This is cool.

 

[sayak83]

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You might want to look up what the word "species" means. Bacteria are an entire domain of life. A domain is bigger than a Kingdom which is bigger than a phylum, which is bigger than a class which is bigger than an order which is bigger than a family which is bigger than a genus which is, in turn, bigger than a species.

Not to be pedantic (okay, a little late for that) but the last time we had a new domain was like a billion years ago.

At least 2 billion years ago when eukaryotes became the last domain. The difference between two bacteria is usually more than 1000 times greater than between an elephant and a mushroom. It's like an ignorant person saying stars, galaxies, planets and man made satellites are all the same as they are all blue blinky lights in the sky. How can one talk with people who are ignorant and determined to remain so to keep their cherished beliefs?

For those who are confused as to how this can be, an analogy can be made.
When it comes to objectively quantifying magnitude of difference, size matters less than type. For example: a single sentence written in English is an entity that is more similar to an entire novel written in English than a single sentence written in Chinese. It matters little that an elephant has a billion cells and an amoeba just one since both cell types have similar structure. The variety of cell types in bacteria are much greater and hence bacteria are objectively more diverse than all eukaryotes.

 

[Dogen]

Only if they use itg correctly. l How do the defcine it?




In my experiece which is probably much greater than yours, I have found anti-creation people to have been indoctrinated and don't even know it.

What about Christians who accept evolution?

 

[idea]

Only one big bang?
I prefer the cyclic model.
Cyclic model - Wikipedia

There is no beginning, there is no end - everything that now exists has always and will always exist in one form or another. ... our spirits are eternal, as is the matter and energy of the universe.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Origin of species is almost 160 years old, a lot of research and observation has gone in to refining Darwin's work. As the book stands yes, its pretty weak, now, 158 years later evolution is known as fact.

And several hundred scientists out of about 7 million is not evenb worth talking about.

Yes, that's how science should always be settled, who's got the biggest scientist army!

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Only if they use itg correctly. l How do the defcine it?

English. Do you use it? I cannot understand what you just wrote... it appears you are upset and typing too fast.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

In my experiece which is probably much greater than yours, I have found anti-creation people to have been indoctrinated and don't even know it.

I doubt this to the highest level of doubt possible. The fact that you project your own misunderstanding onto me?

Increases the level of doubt....

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

And godbots preaching God magic is like believing in bronze age mumbo jumbo. See where your sullenness takes you?

Nice. And 'godbot' makes the leap from topix to here.

 

[Regolith Based Lifeforms]

Hedonist Heretic ("Thumper" on this site) told me that Christine thought that she was banned for an uncomplementary post about the new American president.

That may have been what happened to me as well. Nobody knows. After nearly a decade and several tens of thousands of post there, I was suddenly and inexplicably persona non grata.

It's really weird and i don't think it was anything you said. Everyone from out of the US disappeared overnight.

 

[Regolith Based Lifeforms]

I never got banned, i only ever had one warning and you must admit, i can come on pretty strong. That was the one time i actually swore on topix. It shows a weak mod system that allows the trolls in. I agree with you on the timing of the ban. What tickles me is how muych revenue topix must be loosing from lost advertising, talk about cuting off your noise to spite your face.

Very strange, that. I have assumed the folks at Topix wouldn't want this either because Topix is an online editorials page, really. it's run by the three biggest news papers in the US and i suspect this is caused by something further up the corporate ladder than just little ol' us and our swearing condemnations of Dump.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Very strange, that. I have assumed the folks at Topix wouldn't want this either because Topix is an online editorials page, really. it's run by the three biggest news papers in the US and i suspect this is caused by something further up the corporate ladder than just little ol' us and our swearing condemnations of Dump.

If it was just about the trumpnazi, then why wasn't the ban more pointed? There are plenty of anti-trumpnutz remaining, post-ban.

I wonder if it wasn't collusion with the big orange ego? (or his people... doubtful orange cheeto is even aware of topix... too complicated, and requires reading)

 

[Regolith Based Lifeforms]

If it was just about the trumpnazi, then why wasn't the ban more pointed? There are plenty of anti-trumpnutz remaining, post-ban.

I wonder if it wasn't collusion with the big orange ego? (or his people... doubtful orange cheeto is even aware of topix... too complicated, and requires reading)

The other odd thing is why they never stopped the PMs on Topix, but Christine had a thought on that:
"I don't understand why topix left the message system on, could be a result of how they blocked users. Example, when signed in and i post, i can see my post
although no one else can, if i log out my post disappears, the post numbers show a missing post, log back in again and it's there. Wierd. So it's not that posters are blocked, it's the display of no US posts that's blocked. That way it seems pms will still work."
- ChristineM
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[Bob the Unbeliever]

Yes, but it seems to be filtered by location. Which is really odd.

 

[omega2xx]

Well the fact that you copied word for word my wording is a good indicator.

It is called "backquoting." That is the polite way to help the person remember the comment the person is responding to.

Honey, i debunked icr and answers in genesis many years ago, I'm not going back over the same old rubbish just to satisfy a godbots sensibilities.

Until you debunk them to me you are just bragging. The truth is sweetie, they all are far more qualified in science than you will ever be.

Correct, i never said otherwise however you could try an evolutionary biology institute as opposed to a particle physics institute if you want to learn about evolution, i suggest the The Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Biology

I suggest you post some evidence they offered do I can be sure you understand science and what consteitutes evidence. You haven't done that yet.

And godbots preaching God magic is like believing in bronze age mumbo jumbo. See where your sullenness takes you?

Why do you keep mentioning God? I haven't. We are discussing science. Please stick to the subject sweetie.

 

[omega2xx]

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You might want to look up what the word "species" means. Bacteria are an entire domain of life. A domain is bigger than a Kingdom which is bigger than a phylum, which is bigger than a class which is bigger than an order which is bigger than a family which is bigger than a genus which is, in turn, bigger than a species.

Not to be pedantic (okay, a little late for that) but the last time we had a new domain was like a billion years ago.

I know what a species is. It is evident that you don't. There hasn't been a new species since time began. Tell me what this new species was and included the evidence to support you guess. Even yourf guess abou a billion years agbos isd wrong. Everyone knows it was 1.00359 billion years ago.

 

[ratiocinator]

I know what a species is.

Do you? What is your definition?

 

[omega2xx]

Um...... I feel myself needing to become pedantic again.

You need to look up the full meaning of pedantic.

All species between any two related species are transitionals, by definition.

You allso need to look up the definition of "transitional. DNA will make all the fossils eve found separate and distinct.

What are you looking for? Half a whale? LOL.

I am looking for a scientific explanation of how a nose can evolve into a blowhole and how a land animal can evolve into a sea creature.

The impossible thing for you to try and explain is why a land animal surviving very well on land would enter a more hostile environment. That alone refutes natural selection.
lol

 

[omega2xx]

What about Christians who accept evolution?

Their God is too small.

 

[omega2xx]

this may be a violation of the rules, but I have gathered a series of links in support of evolution. I'll post them here, for anyone who is unfamiliar with these. If this is against the forum rules? I'd be happy to delete.

Here are four of the my favorites

Lines of evidence: The science of evolution

• Fossil evidence
  
  
  
• Homologies
  
  
  
• Distribution in time and space
  
  
  
• Evidence by example

Since there are no intermediate fossils, the fossil record does not support evolution. No evidence was given for HOW the other 3 support evolution. As usual, they just said it did and we are suppose to take their word for. Sorry, I am from Missouri.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/8-scientific-discoveries-that-prove-evolution-is-real-1729902558
Human Evolution Evidence | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

These 2 also didn't explain HOW.

15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense

This was amusing. It actually gave 15 reasons to reject evolution. Although he gave them as reasons why creationist reject evolution, he did not refute any of them scientifically.

If that is the best evolution can do, they are in deep scientific doo doo.

 

[omega2xx]

English. Do you use it? I cannot understand what you just wrote... it appears you are upset and typing too fast.

Sorry about that. I am not upset. My typing skills leave a lot to be desired and my editing skill are even worse.

Try this: Only if they use it correctly. l know how to define it, do you?