nPeace
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The part about bad evidence, and good evidence.What part is confusing you?
What is bad evidence, and, how do you determine that evidence is bad, or good?
So there was no objective evidence of water temperature, until the thermometer was invented? What's the difference between the thermometer and the finger?Do you not understand the difference between subjective evidence and objective evidence?
Consider measuring the tempurature of a glass of water.
Subjective would be someone putting their finger in it and then claiming hot or cold.
Objective would be putting a thermometer in it.
If someone catches on fire, at what point is it evident the person was burnt... only when they are taken to the hospital, and put under an imaging device?
So finding a hair, and saying it looks similar to the hair on my head, therefore it must be from my head, is not objective at all, correct?Consider a court case for a murder.
Subjective would be a person claiming to have seen the suspect at the crime scene.
Objective would be finding the suspect's DNA and fingerprints.
In short, subjective is when you need to "just believe" someone.
Objective is when it is independently verifiable.
I was in a hurry, so I didn't have time to be more specific.To call the universe "creation", is an assumed conclusion and thus fallacious.
You need to demonstrate the causal chain, not just assert it.
Objective evidence for a creator, would be what gives evidence of creation - like a Boeing 747 having hinges, rivets, and other designed features. The design features in nature is objective evidence of a designer.... though unidentified.
It is known that evil acts strike us, by their very nature, as being horrifying and reprehensible, and deeply puzzling. Evil has often been seen as mysterious, demonic and beyond our human powers of under-standing.How is evil objective evidence for satan?
Take the nazi holocaust - I think we can all agree that that was pretty evil.
How does that demonstrate satan?
Why evil exist, is not something that can be objectively verified by any scientific method, since it is more a moral issue, in my view.
However, my objective evidence for Satan being a figure of evil is based on the evidence that the Bible gives credible.testimony.
So you accept that there is objective evidence that Jesus Christ existed as a real person. Only you don't believe there is evidence that he was who he and others claim him to be.Which historical records?
Also, such records, if they exist, would demonstrate that a human being named Jesus exists - not that he is a god or the son of one.
Just like objective evidence for Julius Ceasar didn't demonstrate that the was a descendant of the gods as many Romans (including himself) believed.
Again, I go by the evidence that the witness and testimony given in the Bible, is credible.
So, as you can see, much of my evidence is based on the credibility of the Bible.
The list is all subjective evidence, based on your explanation - which I don't agree with, and will wait for you to address - of sticking the finger in the glass of water.Observed speciation.
The fossil record.
Phylogenies.
Geographic distribution of species.
The genetic record.
Comparative anatomy.
Comparative genomics.
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The fact that all of the above are independent lines of evidence that all converge on the exact same answer.
All of which is very independently testable and very independently verifiable.
Evolution theory makes loads of predictions spanning multiple independent scientific fields and every single time these predictions are tested, they are succesfull.
It doesn't get any better then that in science.
All in that list are like looking at a hair, and saying it looks like the hair on my head, therefore it must be from my head. That's not objective.
I wasn't on the topic of evolution here. I was asking you to prove your claim that "All of Christiany is cults, each church is it's own cult." Can you prove that claim?Science doesn't deal in proof. It only deals in provisional confirmation and evidence.
And evolution theory is as good as it gets in science. It's one of the best, if not THE best, supported theories in all of science.
If the evidence for evolution isn't enough for you to accept the theory as accurate, then I can't imagine a single theory of science that would be acceptable to you, unless you deal in double standards off course.
There is more and better evidence for evolution, then there is for gravity to be honest....