The biogeographic evidence for evolution

[tas8831]

"We don't need no stinkin' papers."

I can't be bothered to look for URL's to brilliant papers you won't read!

Right - I said I would read them.

But, I can see why you might want to back out of it all - your previous forays into providing 'support' for you claims has a, shall we say, 'swing and a miss' quality to them.

Darwin=Hitler

 

[tas8831]

You have no way to know.

Not using your different-states past lie.

 

[Audie]

Not using your different-states past lie.

One could make a list of people to be cast
together on a desert island.

 

[dad]

Not using your different-states past lie.

You have no way to know aside from belief alone.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Right - I said I would read them.

But, I can see why you might want to back out of it all - your previous forays into providing 'support' for you claims has a, shall we say, 'swing and a miss' quality to them.

Darwin=Hitler

Based on your recent childish diatribes, I believe it's been some time since you've read above Dr. Seuss.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Right - I said I would read them.

But, I can see why you might want to back out of it all - your previous forays into providing 'support' for you claims has a, shall we say, 'swing and a miss' quality to them.

Darwin=Hitler

Oof. "Swing and a miss" is generous.

I'd characterize that more as a "Swing and accidentally smash myself in the face while also simultaneously breaking both of my legs and arms somehow".

 

[tas8831]

You have no way to know aside from belief alone.

Your projection is precious and predictable.

 

[tas8831]

Based on your recent childish diatribes, I believe it's been some time since you've read above Dr. Seuss.

So clever. So insightful.
So creationist - all bluff and bluster, no substance.

I'm betting that you still think (or want to believe) Darwin =Hitler, that you will still refer to the hack nonsense of Weikart while ignoring those that debunked his nonsense. That you never had any 'papers'.

But as a pro-slavery creationist Christian, you will never admit to any of your errors. Because that is what conservative Christian creationists are like.

 

[Audie]

So clever. So insightful.
So creationist - all bluff and bluster, no substance.

But as a pro-slavery creationist Christian, you will never admit to any of your errors. Because that is what conservative Christian creationists are like.

Of course, for lo, to admit of the least error is to
prick the balloon.

 

[BilliardsBall]

So clever. So insightful.
So creationist - all bluff and bluster, no substance.

I'm betting that you still think (or want to believe) Darwin =Hitler, that you will still refer to the hack nonsense of Weikart while ignoring those that debunked his nonsense. That you never had any 'papers'.

But as a pro-slavery creationist Christian, you will never admit to any of your errors. Because that is what conservative Christian creationists are like.

Please post here the post where I wrote or even implied, "Darwin=Hitler", you know, the lie you've posted ten times now because you are slavishly devoted to posting to me.

All I said was that Hitler adored and embraced Darwinism, which logically implied that people were mere animals ready for slaughter. If you disagree from evolutionary science, that we're not mere animals, please respond here.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

All I said was that Hitler adored and embraced Darwinism, which logically implied that people were mere animals ready for slaughter.

Only someone with either a vast ignorance concerning the subject of biological evolution and/or with a hidden political agenda would say such things.

Biological evolution is a model that explains what happens in nature and which processes all living things (due to the condition of "living") are inevitably subject to.

It is NOT a sociological model against which we should model our society. Those who think that that is a "logical implication" of natural processes, either don't comprehend the natural processes or they have an agenda.

In reality the science of biology doesn't mean we should shoot disabled people in the head at birth, just like the model of gravity doesn't mean we should push people off of buildings.

What ignorant absurd things to say...........

If you disagree from evolutionary science, that we're not mere animals, please respond here.

No, we humans are definatly animals. That is just our biological classification. It's not a prescription on how you should live your life or about how you should interact with other humans (or not).

The classification ONLY deals with your biological make-up.

 

[Audie]

Only someone with either a vast ignorance concerning the subject of biological evolution and/or with a hidden political agenda would say such things.

Biological evolution is a model that explains what happens in nature and which processes all living things (due to the condition of "living") are inevitably subject to.

It is NOT a sociological model against which we should model our society. Those who think that that is a "logical implication" of natural processes, either don't comprehend the natural processes or they have an agenda.

In reality the science of biology doesn't mean we should shoot disabled people in the head at birth, just like the model of gravity doesn't mean we should push people off of buildings.

What ignorant absurd things to say...........



No, we humans are definatly animals. That is just our biological classification. It's not a prescription on how you should live your life or about how you should interact with other humans (or not).

The classification ONLY deals with your biological make-up.

There is at least a thin strand of unintended humour in
it, when the creos bring up Darwin / Hitler, especially
when it comes from one who likes to brag about
how much "education" he has.

Actually, the creos bear a distinct resemblance
to Hitler in regard to their ignorant facile notions about
ToE, and twisting it into anything that suits their
fancy.

Though in this regard, the prize goes to the creos,
who far exceed anything the big H could have come
up with.

 

[tas8831]

Please post here the post where I wrote or even implied, "Darwin=Hitler", you know, the lie you've posted ten times now because you are slavishly devoted to posting to me.

We've been through all this before, you just are eager to find an out that does not exist.

You wrote "Hitler and Stalin did what they did as Darwinists."

I compacted that to Darwin=Hitler.

It is precious that you call it a lie, when it is your thesis - something that you seem to find very important despite the fact that it is based on, at best, unwarranted extrapolation, shoddy scholarship, and an obvious desperation to attack evolution at all costs, even using logical fallacies to do so - a thesis of ignorance, as I demonstrated when you actually cited a paper that not only took down right-wing scumbag Weikart's claims, but concluded with:

In order to sustain the thesis that Hitler was a Darwinian one would have to ignore all the explicit statements of Hitler rejecting any theory like Darwin’s and draw fanciful implications from vague words, errant phrases, and ambiguous sentences,neglecting altogether more straight -forward, contextual interpretations of such utterances. Only the ideologically blinded would still try to sustain the thesis in the face of the contrary, manifest evidence.​

Remember?

here, let me remind you:

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All I said was that Hitler adored and embraced Darwinism,

Which is a lie.

which logically implied that people were mere animals ready for slaughter. If you disagree from evolutionary science, that we're not mere animals, please respond here.

We are all animals.

Hitler came up with his hatred of Jews and the like when he was a Christian, doing, according to him, "the Lord's work."

I trust that you will stop using the pathetic, lie-based argument against evolution that Darwin=Hitler from now on, but I doubt you will do so. Creationists have so little going for them and their sad arguments that lies are about the best they can offer these days.

 

[dad]

Biological evolution is a model that explains what happens in nature and which processes all living things (due to the condition of "living") are inevitably subject to.

It is NOT a sociological model against which we should model our society. .

When your world view is that you are related to flatworms and bananas and that the universe and man are happenstance with no God involved, and that you are animals, that affects society. Really.

 

[SkepticThinker]

When your world view is that you are related to flatworms and bananas and that the universe and man are happenstance with no God involved, and that you are animals, that affects society. Really.

Evolution isn't a world view. It's a description of a process that takes place in nature.

But let's go with what you've said here ... we are related to flatworms, bananas, dogs, cats, deer, lions, bats, trees, and guess what else, human beings! In other words, we're all in this together. I would say that the idea that everything on earth is related would have a positive affect on society, because it puts us all on equal footing with other human beings, and also with all other living creatures on the planet.

It sure beats the "I believe in the right God and I'm going to heaven while you go to hell for not believing" attitude we see from some, wouldn't you say? That's not a very uniting message now, is it?

 

[dad]

Evolution isn't a world view. It's a description of a process that takes place in nature.

False. It is carrying to absurd levels of pagan imagination results of some processes we see today.

But let's go with what you've said here ... we are related to flatworms, bananas, dogs, cats, deer, lions, bats, trees, and guess what else, human beings! In other words, we're all in this together.

Speak for yourself!

I am not in there with you in any way. My relatives were people. Nothing else. As much as you think you are relatives with fruit, and bugs, sorry, don't include rational people in your fantasies.

I would say that the idea that everything on earth is related would have a positive affect on society, because it puts us all on equal footing with other human beings, and also with all other living creatures on the planet.

Equal footing with slugs in a pond that you might steal a person's farm to protect!

It sure beats the "I believe in the right God and I'm going to heaven while you go to hell for not believing" attitude we see from some, wouldn't you say? That's not a very uniting message now, is it?

Jesus made a way for all to have life everlasting. Man will never be united or save the planet or himself. Man needs saving and is fallen and hopelessly lost. Man would destroy life and the planet if Jesus did not step in from heaven to intervene.

 

[Polymath257]

False. It is carrying to absurd levels of pagan imagination results of some processes we see today.
Speak for yourself!

I am not in there with you in any way. My relatives were people. Nothing else. As much as you think you are relatives with fruit, and bugs, sorry, don't include rational people in your fantasies.

Equal footing with slugs in a pond that you might steal a person's farm to protect!
Jesus made a way for all to have life everlasting. Man will never be united or save the planet or himself. Man needs saving and is fallen and hopelessly lost. Man would destroy life and the planet if Jesus did not step in from heaven to intervene.

This is your *opinion*.

 

[tas8831]

When your world view is that you are related to flatworms and bananas and that the universe and man are happenstance with no God involved, and that you are animals, that affects society. Really.

Isn't yours that you were made from dust to be suffer at the whims of the deity that created you?

 

[dad]

This is your *opinion*.

The bible is not my opinion. Your belief based so called science interpretations are belief.

 

[dad]

Isn't yours that you were made from dust to be suffer at the whims of the deity that created you?

No. Mine is that we have an eternal destiny to rule and reign with Him forever. My view of the world is that He will come and fix it rather than greenies saving the planet.