The Brutality of Vikings

[Revoltingest]

Or in some cases claim there is only one defintion of a word when there are many. That can also happen, but not really since it is all an illusion.

Cases are an illusion.

 

[Revoltingest]

You like to force your own gundamentist....

That seemed a good point to stop reading.
My advice....
Try discussion instead of tossing barbs
erroneously believed to be clever.

 

[Wu Wei]

I thought I'd already addressed this.
Hmmmm....I did. Not well enuf apparently.

I assume that nearly all have cultures who committed
wrongful acts. The issue is celebration of those
cultures. Why is it wrong to have Confederate pride,
but perfectly fine to be proud of Viking lineage?

Yeah…. maybe i missed the point if your but but you missed my point as well. The time in which the Viking were a force tio be reckoned with was a brutal time. So by comparison, were they anymore brutal than anyone ekse.

As fior confederate pride. I was born in the south and i have to admit i never understood all the statues commemorating the guys that lost. I’m not sure if any other country did that

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah…. maybe i missed the point if your but but you missed my point as well. The time in which the Viking were a force tio be reckoned with was a brutal time. So by comparison, were they anymore brutal than anyone ekse.

Oh, I know that. But Confederates had a
tradition of slavery that was initially acceptable
by many, eg, northern states, England.

As fior confederate pride. I was born in the south and i have to admit i never understood all the statues commemorating the guys that lost. I’m not sure if any other country did that

I eschew pride my ancestors.
Whatever they did, either good or bad,
twas they who did the deeds....not me.

I put no effort into tracing my ancestry.
It doesn't interest me....except to mock
Scots & Krauts.

 

[Wu Wei]

Oh, I know that. But Confederates had a
tradition of slavery that was initially acceptable
by many, eg, northern states, England.


I eschew pride my ancestors.
Whatever they did, either good or bad,
twas they who did the deeds....not me.

I put no effort into tracing my ancestry.
It doesn't interest me....except to mock
Scots & Krauts.

SO!!! Casting aspersions on my Scottish and German heritage are you….of course you realize this means war…..

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I thought I'd already addressed this.
Hmmmm....I did. Not well enuf apparently.

I assume that nearly all have cultures who committed
wrongful acts. The issue is celebration of those
cultures. Why is it wrong to have Confederate pride,
but perfectly fine to be proud of Viking lineage?

Why can’t folks celebrate their cultures?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

But my original post and subsequent posts are specifically in reference to the Viking era. Which is defined by specific dates 799 to 1100

And mine have been about the period starting with la conquista.

I’m not sure of your point, here.

Are you trying to tell me that these are two different cultures?

Or is it something else?

 

[Revoltingest]

….of course you realize this means war…..

So typical of Scots & Krauts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why can’t folks celebrate their cultures?

Who says they can't?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Who says they can't?

You.

 

[Revoltingest]

You.

False inference.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Who says they can't?

You’re here complaining about us celebrating cultures who you have problems with.

You seem to have problems with lots and lots of cultures.

I can kind of see why you feel the need for guns.

But it doesn’t make me feel any safer here in this country with you.

That’s why we’ll be forced to flee the country should you and your partners start shooting and blowing up churches and stuff.

We’ve seen what happens to the people when gundamentalists like you start shooting.

 

[Wu Wei]

And mine have been about the period starting with la conquista.

I’m not sure of your point, here.

Are you trying to tell me that these are two different cultures?

Or is it something else?

I quoted @Revoltingest, and was talking specifically about the Viking era, you jumped in with a somewhat unrelated response, i asked about the Viking era again and you responded with something unrelated as example of societies without slavery that did not exist during the Viking era.

. Where the heck you are getting 2 different cultures I have no clue. To be honest I’m nit even sure why you even brought the culture thing into iit

It’s pretty simple, Viking era was brutal, Vikings could be brutal, but then pretty much everyone else at that time was capable of great brutality

 

[Revoltingest]

You’re here...

That much is correct.
The rest is twaddle.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Oh, I know that. But Confederates had a
tradition of slavery that was initially acceptable
by many, eg, northern states, England.


I eschew pride my ancestors.
Whatever they did, either good or bad,
twas they who did the deeds....not me.

I put no effort into tracing my ancestry.
It doesn't interest me....except to mock
Scots & Krauts.

Ah, now I get it.

It’s not interesting to you, so you feel the need to tell others that it shouldn’t be interesting to them, either.

I’m sensing a pattern, here.

I sure wish you weren’t armed.

You scare me.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ah, now I get it.

Not yet.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I quoted @Revoltingest, and was talking specifically about the Viking era, you jumped in with a somewhat unrelated response, i asked about the Viking era again and you responded with something unrelated as example of societies without slavery that did not exist during the Viking era.

. Where the heck you are getting 2 different cultures I have no clue. To be honest I’m nit even sure why you even brought the culture thing into iit

It’s pretty simple, Viking era was brutal, Vikings could be brutal, but then pretty much everyone else at that time was capable of great brutality

I’ll have to go back and see what it was you said that I responded to.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

While sitting in Beijing and speaking as one with a bit of Viking heritage and a lot of Germanic with some Irish, Scottish and English

Pick society, group, or empire of the time and tell me which one that didn’t have slaves or didn’t commit acts if cruelty

Slavery is against some cultures’ religions.

Acts of cruelty are quite another thing.

The great black military leaders even made pacts with the devil, in exchange for various gifts or powers.

It’s a Catholic thang.

It looks like I simply responded to your post.

I’m not sure why you think I didn’t.

 

[Wu Wei]

It looks like I simply responded to your post.

I’m not sure why you think I didn’t.

My post

Pick society, group, or empire of the time and tell me which one that didn’t have slaves or didn’t commit acts if cruelty.

Note the bold bit. Reference to the Viking era

Your post

Slavery is against some cultures’ religions.
Acts of cruelty are quite another thing.

The great black military leaders even made pacts with the devil, in exchange for various gifts or powers.

It’s a Catholic thang

My next post

From 790 to 1109?

Your next post

From the early 1500s.

The early years are shrouded in mystery. But they made a big splash back in the 1720s when they reached out to the Holy Catholic Church to secure a priest to perform baptisms.

The paper really started flying.

The House of Bourbon had to invent this weird political notion of something called the “separation of powers”, just to keep their heads from exploding, since the state, although unable to exterminate them, viewed their existence as illegal.

They were allied with the Holy Catholic Church in their wars with the colonial state.

The right to Welcome the Stranger was a mayor early issue with the colonial state, and the reason for the alliance with the Holy Catholic Church.

In fact, Welcoming the Stranger is the very foundation of Catholicism.[\quote]

You are talking from the early 1509s and mentioned 1720….dates decidedly not within the viking era from 790 to 1109…
Therefore outside the Viking era and not an answer to anything I posted

I can’t make it more simple than that

1500s to 1720 is decidedly outside the dates of the Viking era

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

As if ye new are any less cruel than thy olde. Imagine the wake of ye new as ye olde slowly fade into the abyss understanding how ye new conduct thine own future well being and thine own descendants futures who will be born into the wake left by thy news efforts. Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, North Korea, China, Yugoslavia, Iran, Bosnia, Yemen, Afghanistan, the list goes' on and on ...

No guns left? No will in man to stand? No democracy? Fictional is only fiction when it's fantasy. As cruel as they may have been, and no matter how scummy you may view them to have been, the element of truth and reality is present in their history, just as it is present in every other culture history. Would you prefer a three piece suit, bow tie, and perfume to go with the vegan meal prepared by your caretakers? Why am I not so optimistic about the future as our youth seem to be, or is it that they have less hope than I do? It's alright to enjoy fictional stuff. Agreed.

As long as you remember ... and never forget the real in the stories being told also.

Sorry for the rant. Truly.

Not gonna argue that