The Burning of Quran – A Modern Act of Barbarism

[hadzo]

You thought right, thats why Muslims worship god alone.

So then, why so angered if Quran is burned?

 

[Badran]

So then, why so angered if Quran is burned?

I'm personally not angry about it, however i can understand why some people might be. The reasons for being angered is the sentiment attempted to be shown by this action, or angered by the fact that some thing they hold dear is being treated this way publicly on purpose to convey a message of hate towards Islam and Muslims etc.. something along those lines.

 

[hadzo]

I'm personally not angry about it, however i can understand why some people might be. The reasons for being angered is the sentiment attempted to be shown by this action, or angered by the fact that some thing they hold dear is being treated this way publicly on purpose to convey a message of hate towards Islam and Muslims etc.. something along those lines.

Ok, I understand it from your point of view but than with that logic wouldn't you even say that in terms of faith and religion they have lost it, or at least comprehending it the wrong way? I mean, after all I think all religion have a room for "God forgive them for they not know"... Plus its not like someone came to their house and burned it.

On a side note I do not condone burning of any type of books. Books are what brought us here so far. It appears the best way to preserve knowledge.

 

[jarofthoughts]

Not really more, burning books in general is pretty stupid. I guess the only difference is that religious books are usually held dear by a big number of people.

I agree that burning books is pretty stupid.
But when and if someone does so, it reflects more upon them than it does the book.
It's the reaction to the burning of the book that reflects upon those who hold it dear.

 

[jarofthoughts]

Of course it saddens me to hear about anyone burning another's holy book. However, I find it beyond disturbing when people react just as those who burn the book want them to. It just proves their point, does it not?

I fail to understand what burning flags, buildings, people, etc. will serve in terms of disproving the stereotypes. There is nothing wrong with being upset, but find a constructive way to react...perhaps starting with bettering yourself and reacting NON-violently.

Anyone who has read my posts knows that I strongly condemn violent behavior in general, and especially in cases like this.

^This.

 

[Revoltingest]

To Muslims, I have a question.... Is there any movement within Islam to discredit violent
reactions to literary related offenses (eg, book burning, cartoons) as un-Islamic?

 

[RitalinO.D.]

It kinda tickles me when I see some idiot on T.V. trying to oraganize the burning of a Holy Qur'an. I mean, seriously, aren't they all Christians ? Just goes to show what kind of class they have. And why are we burning Qur'ans ? Because of 9/11 ? Yeah, that was damn near 10 years ago. The fact of the matter is if Muslims really wanted to kill Americans -- we'd be dead.

Reality is that since 9/11, there hasn't been a single attack on American soil. And don't even try and tell me it is because our government is stopping all these so-called threats. I think you should look inside your own government or a shadow government before you go on blaming Muslims for 9/11.

Seriously now, are you telling me that if a Muslim was hell-bent on killing innocent Americans, he couldn't do it ? Sure you can say it happened at Fort Hood - i'm not denying that, but still. Has it happened at a shopping Mall or a Movie Theatre or something like that ? No.

Reality is Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet. People are scared of this, christians are scared of this. One day Islam will have the biggest following of people in the world. I can't wait for that day. What a glorious day that will be.

If anything the Bible should be thrown in the gutter for the endless amount of contradictions in it. Hell, most people who believe in the Bible can't even agree on who god is- Jesus or Jehovah. Then you have Jehovah Witnesses running around saying Hell doesn't exist, ect, and that Trinity is B.S. Then, on the other hand, there are people who say Trinity is real. What a bunch of nonsense. My advice is to drop your Bible and go pick up a Holy Qur'an and educate yourself.

Also, what did you think about people setting LeBron James' Jersey on Fire when he left Cleveland and went to Miami ? roflmfao. get out of here.
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Awesome, another Muslim conspiracy theorist.

And apparent extremist. Sweet.....

 

[Father Heathen]

Books are inanimate objects. There is nothing wrong with burning them as long as it's not an attempt at censorship and that the copies were legally obtained by those burning them (I would prefer not to see rare books destroyed, however) Although I would prefer to see paper waste properly recycled for the sake of environment and resources. If people choose to get their dainty little emotions in a twist over it, then that's their own problem. People are not obligated to respect the beliefs and practices of others, especially when it isn't given in return. No one owes you anything. Learn to deal with it.
To compare it to actually physically harming and killing innocent people is beyond ridiculous.

 

[beenie]

It kinda tickles me when I see some idiot on T.V. trying to oraganize the burning of a Holy Qur'an. I mean, seriously, aren't they all Christians ? Just goes to show what kind of class they have. And why are we burning Qur'ans ? Because of 9/11 ? Yeah, that was damn near 10 years ago. The fact of the matter is if Muslims really wanted to kill Americans -- we'd be dead.

Reality is that since 9/11, there hasn't been a single attack on American soil. And don't even try and tell me it is because our government is stopping all these so-called threats. I think you should look inside your own government or a shadow government before you go on blaming Muslims for 9/11.

Seriously now, are you telling me that if a Muslim was hell-bent on killing innocent Americans, he couldn't do it ? Sure you can say it happened at Fort Hood - i'm not denying that, but still. Has it happened at a shopping Mall or a Movie Theatre or something like that ? No.

Reality is Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet. People are scared of this, christians are scared of this. One day Islam will have the biggest following of people in the world. I can't wait for that day. What a glorious day that will be.

If anything the Bible should be thrown in the gutter for the endless amount of contradictions in it. Hell, most people who believe in the Bible can't even agree on who god is- Jesus or Jehovah. Then you have Jehovah Witnesses running around saying Hell doesn't exist, ect, and that Trinity is B.S. Then, on the other hand, there are people who say Trinity is real. What a bunch of nonsense. My advice is to drop your Bible and go pick up a Holy Qur'an and educate yourself.

Also, what did you think about people setting LeBron James' Jersey on Fire when he left Cleveland and went to Miami ? roflmfao. get out of here.
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I'm not Alex Jones but the fact of the matter is there is far more evidence supporting an inside job than there is supporting your governments account of what happened that day. Don't ask me to do your homework for you, either.



Planes heading from America to England ( Dec 2001 ) Richard Reid ( Shoe Bomber, 2002 ) the others I don't know nor do I care. Fact of the matter is NOBODY could stop some American Muslim from purchasing a handgun and going on a killing spree. That's the cold hard reality. And reality is that has yet to happen ( 10 years later )...

So, please, try again.



The whole Islam being the number 1 fastest growing religion came from " Perry Stone " some hardcore Muslim-Hating Christian. Go Figure. I'm sure you know all about him too.



I'll bet you haven't read a single Surah, nevermind the whole thing. Reality is the Holy Qur'an is intellectually superior to the Bible on so many levels it's not even fair to compare the two. The Bible was made for little school kids. The Holy Qur'an, on the other hand, was made for educated people.



Just shows how up-to-date you are on wordly things. Probably too busy reading your Bible trying to figure out which god to worship - Jesus or Jehovah. roflmfao.

Please. You are so far off base with your insults that no one can take you seriously. Could you please try to make your points without threats and bashing other religions? I agree with YmirGF that you are probably quite young. Instead of insulting the Bible, which we are to hold in high regard, not "thrown in the gutter", try to make your points based on fact.

 

[Neophyte]

Burning a Quaran, Bible, or any other holy book is far from barbaric. It is certainly not a cool thing to do and it is very disrepectful. No matter how you look at it people should not kill anyone over it. I have nothing against Muslims but I am disgusted by those who kill others over the Quaran. I woul d feel that way about any releigion...no one should be killed because somone burns a book. no matter how disrespectful it is...no body.

 

[elmarna]

YOU can burn all the books you want. The Quran, The torah, & the bible is well rooted in the peoples-not the paper. As long as you are willing to find a importance in the representation there will be book & flag burnings. upset people will do a lot of things to get noticed. Watch any spoiled brat sometime. He never seems to find wise ways to show you how he feels!

 

[Quagmire]

I don't see anything barbaric about burning one book. I didn't perceive any indication of hate on the part of the person who did it. Obviously he didn't agree with the book and wnated to display that disagreement in a dramatic fashion. I doubt very much that the book will go out of print or lack adherents because of it.

So you wont mind if I use this King James for kindling next time I go camping?

 

[Badran]

Ok, I understand it from your point of view but than with that logic wouldn't you even say that in terms of faith and religion they have lost it, or at least comprehending it the wrong way? I mean, after all I think all religion have a room for "God forgive them for they not know"... Plus its not like someone came to their house and burned it.

To me as long as they contain whatever feelings they get, they're still doing fine. In other words, our control on our feelings is not as good as our control on our actions, in my opinion. So, if someone got angry over this but did nothing, they are doing pretty good. If they don't let it get to them at all, they're doing great.

If you're talking about the people who do react violently however, then yeah i agree. From my point of view they would have lost it and made a terrible mistake well surpassing the one that was done to them.

On a side note I do not condone burning of any type of books. Books are what brought us here so far. It appears the best way to preserve knowledge.

I understand you're not saying the book burning was okay, and agree of course.

 

[Badran]

I agree that burning books is pretty stupid.
But when and if someone does so, it reflects more upon them than it does the book.
It's the reaction to the burning of the book that reflects upon those who hold it dear.

I agree entirely with both points.

 

[Badran]

To Muslims, I have a question.... Is there any movement within Islam to discredit violent
reactions to literary related offenses (eg, book burning, cartoons) as un-Islamic?

Here are the results from a quick google search about reactions towards the offensive cartoons for example:

This article is signed by more than 40 scholars.

Here is another one.

And finally this.

All three condemned violent reactions over the cartoons. You may agree or disagree with some other points in the articles, so do i, however the point in them that i'm posting them for obviously is concerning the violent reactions.

 

[Glow]

Please. You are so far off base with your insults that no one can take you seriously. Could you please try to make your points without threats and bashing other religions? I agree with YmirGF that you are probably quite young. Instead of insulting the Bible, which we are to hold in high regard, not "thrown in the gutter", try to make your points based on fact.

Whatever. I'm not going to argue with you. And why should I not bash other religions when people are trying to portray Muslims as nothing but throat-slitting extremists? Also, am not too young. 26 years old. Is that young ? I don't think so. I am pushing 30 and feel old as hell. And why in the hell would I hold the Bible " in high regard " ?

Last check, I heard that they were literally going to rewrite the Bible to add in Dinosaurs ? What a joke! I don't know if that is true or not, but I did overhear some " Christians " talking about it, and even they thought it was stupid.

Sighs...

 

[beenie]

Whatever. I'm not going to argue with you.

Sighs, not surprising. That seems to be a canned answer when backed against a wall.

And why should I not bash other religions when people are trying to portray Muslims as nothing but throat-slitting extremists?

For starters, because two wrongs don't make a right. Why not be better than them?

Also, am not too young. 26 years old. Is that young ? I don't think so. I am pushing 30 and feel old as hell. And why in the hell would I hold the Bible " in high regard " ?

What happened to respect and tolerance of other religions as we are taught in Islam? Are you above that?

Last check, I heard that they were literally going to rewrite the Bible to add in Dinosaurs ? What a joke! I don't know if that is true or not, but I did overhear some " Christians " talking about it, and even they thought it was stupid.

Proof of this?

Sighs...

ditto.

 

[ChristineES]

Let me make a little somewhat off-topic observational point: If you trash someone else's holy book at the same time as saying that is wrong for people to trash your holy book doesn't that make you a hypocrite? I am not calling anyone a hypocrite but just making an observation.

 

[YmirGF]

Also, am not too young. 26 years old. Is that young ? I don't think so. I am pushing 30 and feel old as hell.

Feeling old at 26 is indicative that you are doing something wrong. You should have tons of energy as you are entering the prime of your life. That said, at 26, you are little more than a child to me.

And why in the hell would I hold the Bible " in high regard " ?

Beats me. Should you? I don't give a rat's hindquarters as to what the Bible or the, oh, so illustrious, Qur'an have to say about, well, anything at all. I don't disrespect them, but I certainly don't respect them either, though I do respect other human animals inalienable right to respect whatever they wish. Said human animals simply have no right to expect me to respect their sensitivities. I don't expect them to respect mine.

 

[jarofthoughts]

I think the bottom line is that no-one has a right to not be offended.
Rather, everyone has the right to their own opinion and the right to express that opinion in a peaceful non-violent manner.
If that opinion offends someone, tough.

Welcome to the modern international multicultural society.