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The circular reasoning of Evolution and billions of years believers.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If you go to the patent office with an invention that violates the law of entropy, they will laugh at you.

Look at the awesome power of God.

Yep, but I did not propose that. You simply do not understand the laws of entropy. By your poor understanding you should not be alive. But you are. And we know that does not refute the 2nd Law. So since you became "more complex" your simplified view needs to be corrected.

The 2nd Law does not say that things get worse. It does not say that things go to disorder. In fact it is not even really about order. That is a result of what it is about. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is about the energy available for work. It says simply that in any reaction the energy available for work will decrease.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Yep, but I did not propose that. You simply do not understand the laws of entropy. By your poor understanding you should not be alive. But you are. And we know that does not refute the 2nd Law. So since you became "more complex" your simplified view needs to be corrected.

The 2nd Law does not say that things get worse. It does not say that things go to disorder. In fact it is not even really about order. That is a result of what it is about. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is about the energy available for work. It says simply that in any reaction the energy available for work will decrease.
But the universe will run out of energy and then just dissipate into lots of particles, but no stars, planets or any living thing will exist.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
But the universe will run out of energy and then just dissipate into lots of particles, but no stars, planets or any living thing will exist.
The universe may run out of the type of energy that matters most and that will be trillions of years from now. So what?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Yes, that is the ultimate end of our universe. At least it looks that way now.
Actually Christ will intercede before that happens. Christ will dissolve the heaven and earth with great heat and create a new heaven and a new earth where dwelleth righteousness.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. - 2 Peter 3:10-13
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Actually Christ will intercede before that happens. Christ will dissolve the heaven and earth with great heat and create a new heaven and a new earth where dwelleth righteousness.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. - 2 Peter 3:10-13
That is just a belief, and it does not even say that Jesus will change the universe somehow. I do not think that you understand your own Bible very well.

And why would you trust that source? Scholars are rather sure today that II Peter was not written by Peter.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Actually Christ will intercede before that happens. Christ will dissolve the heaven and earth with great heat and create a new heaven and a new earth where dwelleth righteousness.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. - 2 Peter 3:10-13

He's failed with all the other attempts, fat chance of him getting right next time.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Actually Christ will intercede before that happens. Christ will dissolve the heaven and earth with great heat and create a new heaven and a new earth where dwelleth righteousness.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. - 2 Peter 3:10-13
You have been fooled.

The end, and new beginning, will be Ragnarok.

Thor is far more powerful then your god.
Jesus came to free us from sin, yet everyday there are more sinners.
Thor came to slay the ice giants. I'm not seeing any ice giants....

Thor with his mighty Mjöllnir gets the job done!

Checkmate!
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Actually Christ will intercede before that happens. Christ will dissolve the heaven and earth with great heat and create a new heaven and a new earth where dwelleth righteousness.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. - 2 Peter 3:10-13
False.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
So where and when did the first living creature come into being and what protected it?
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F1fan

Veteran Member
We listen to experts, not religious extremists. Experts report their findings of evolution and a universe that is over 14 billion years old, and they show their work. Religious extremists who have beliefs that are contrary to science offer no evidence or methods to prove their claims, so we dismiss them. Notice you make claims about your bogus interpretation of the Bible but offer no evidence. Why would educated people take your word for it? They won’t. We don’t. Why hasn’t that sunk into your awareness?
 
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